Usual suspects, SAP and Deutsche Telekom, which shows the corruption of our elites.
Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
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#42Usual suspects, SAP and Deutsche Telekom, which shows the corruption of our elites.
Strangely enough, the same both SAP and Deutsche Telekom doing the german Corona app.
Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
#43It's no surprise the French government is involved in this. They love these moonshot projects that aim to create the French X for any X that is a successful service by an American company. Qwant[1], launched as "The French Google" with a focus on privacy, serves 10 million searches a day (a ridiculously small number). No one has heard of it, no one uses it, and it's another project with a dream of restoring France to…
I agree completely: as a European, I find these projects pathetic. We need the humility to learn something from the US and create an environment and a framework in which private companies can thrive, instead of being constantly dragged down by bureaucracy, regulations, and a legal-judiciary system eager not to help but to assert its power.
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#44Usual suspects, SAP and Deutsche Telekom, which shows the corruption of our elites.
Strangely enough, the same both SAP and Deutsche Telekom doing the german Corona app.
What's strange about it? SAP and T-Systems are by far the largest IT consulting shops in Germany. Of course they get almost every huge contract.
Now, I agree that a more diverse landscape in that industry would be preferable, but feigning surprise is not helping one bit.
Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
#45This once again ignores what are probably more profound issues.
Europe has tech companies and independent cloud providers. Yet they seem to never grow large or fast enough to become leaders globally or even in Europe.
SAP is mentioned, which is a giant. But it is 50 years old. This is not the type of company that is going to challenge the status quo and come up with disrupting technology.
I think countries like France and Germany should really look at their tech and business environments, including universities, finance, tax, labour law, etc.
Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
#46https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23423921 was earlier on the same topic but since this article has a lot more information, perhaps we'll merge those comments hither.
Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
#47I get the sentiment, but why not invest in companies like https://www.scaleway.com/en/ a bit more?
Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
#48"repository of existing services and resources that are available in the ecosystem, including the capability to search this repository"
Yeah I totally want to spend my time digging around in there for "which random company can I get a crappy version of AWS Lambda from?"
I'm no fan of monocultures and US/Chinese influence but if they want it to actually work they could say "here's a terraform provider that figures it out for you". That would be nice. So far it sounds like this is just "we'll make a list of cloud providers and some of their services"
Re: Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
#49This once again ignores what are probably more profound issues. Europe has tech companies and independent cloud providers. Yet they seem to never grow large or fast enough to become leaders globally or even in Europe. SAP is mentioned, which is a giant. But it is 50 years old. This is not the type of company that is going to challenge the status quo and come up with disrupting technology. I think countries like Franc…
> Europe has tech companies and independent cloud providers. Yet they seem to never grow large or fast enough to become leaders globally or even in Europe.
Very true, but I'm unsure why that is the case. My guess it's the country/language fragmentation, ie. companies looking mostly at suppliers from their own country. But I'm not sure that is the case.
Also another guess is that European companies buy US software but US companies don't often buy European software perhaps? Again, nothing to back that up with except for a hunch.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Strangely enough, the same both SAP and Deutsche Telekom doing the german Corona app.
What's strange about it? SAP and T-Systems are by far the largest IT consulting shops in Germany. Of course they get almost every huge contract. Now, I agree that a more diverse landscape in that industry would be preferable, but feigning surprise is not helping one bit.
The corona app doesn't need to be a huge contract. But SAP and T-Systems can sure waste a huge amount of time and charge a huge amount of money for it.