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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by nemo44x »

A solution to this would be to use congress instead of expecting companies to comply.

Create a law that prevents elected or people who have declared themselves a candidate for office from using social media platforms. Extend it to their offices/teams/associates etc.

Politics shouldn’t be reduced to 160 characters in my opinion. I don’t want to live in a society where this is the primary way this kind of important information is conveyed.

Keep social networks for the chattering class, not the political class.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by naavis »

ninjaturtlez wrote: post #5

Can Facebook fuck off with closing the current tab I am in whenever I click one of their links? Sometimes undoing the closed tab doesn't work and there is no way to recover my previous tabs history. This has gotten so annoying and used to be things we only expected from spam sites

That's most likely Firefox's Facebook container. Once you click on a link that leads outside Facebook, the container closes and you can't go back anymore.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by kiplkipl »

karaterobot wrote: post #262
kiplkipl wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it seems the poster does find some value in social media. I'm saying that HN is social media - descended from Reddit, in fact - to point out that the popular stance of Facebook being inherently evil seems to forgive this website for doing the same thing. This kind of scare has happened with all media: games, TV, film, fiction books. If there's a difference between the fast-food social media and this website, I'd…

You're implying the commenter is hypocritical for being on a social media site while criticizing social media. I don't think that's necessarily true, since all they said was that _too much_ social media was bad for your health, not that any amount was. Even if they spent all their time on social media, their warning against it wouldn't necessarily be hypocritical. If an alcoholic tells you that alcohol is addictive,…

I don't think what you have said here is wrong. I do think that judgements about social media are made from the point of view of people who hear about the evils of big (fast food) websites mostly second-hand while wrongly believing they don't participate in it.

My understanding is that this website was created was to make YC more famous among the kind of people who would post here. Posts are indexed by search engines and, after some period, undeletable. Like all social media - including all the way back to usenet, before the phrase existed - flaming, high-tensions, and consequences are non-negligible. I've seen someone write a post as an insider that got a reply from their CEO asking them not to do it. The sum of this is that YC's advertising is creating a platform for people to harm their careers.

Yet, despite knowing this, I continue to browse because I find value in the content that exceeds the dangers. I imagine others feel the same and hope that, by viewing HN under the same umbrella as Facebook etc., they might not view the negatives as fatal. At least not to the point of demanding other people leave their jobs.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by 12xo »

peruvian wrote: post #276
seesawtron wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the trigger of social media is getting dopamine-like reward signal when people like/share your posts. Its underlying acceptance of "you" aspect of it, rather than the idea itself that you share. In a forum, being an anonymous user, it doesn't affect you as much on a personal level which allows for a more rational discussion by detaching the "personal" side of you from it. Of course, that is only true in theory…

This website literally has upvotes and comments - two ways millions of people get dopamine.

So Social Media is any digital tool that allows people to interact? I really dont understand your definition as every human interaction across all mediums could be defined as social media. And yet the term and the tools did not exist prior to 2003ish... So was Usenet social media? Was Aol and Prodigy?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by deathgrips »

mchusma wrote: post #49

I don't understand why doesn't Facebook just: -Allow all posts -Allow users to customize what they want to see (e.g. "dont show me posts that glorify violence" or "only allow covid posts that match WHO guidelines" or "allow exceptions from political figures or of historical significance") and allow users to ban hide posts that are found untruthful by third parties (snopes, etc). To me effectively everyone wins. Faceb…

Silicon Valley people live in a bubble where everyone they know is smart and liberal. After a while they forget that there exist smart people who are not liberal and implicitly think that if someone disagrees with them, they are uneducated and just wrong. Consequently they take it upon themselves to demand that people not be allowed to say incorrect and uneducated opinions (really just anything the Silicon Valley hivemind disagrees with).

When nearly everyone in your bubble has the same beliefs on politics and culture you will react violently towards threatening ideas.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by pedro_hab »

tibbydudeza wrote: post #86
pedro_hab wrote: post #62

This is all nonsense to me. Trump said if you loot, you get shot. Isn't this how our society works? If you steal you may end up getting shot. People are trying to react as if he said "if you walk down the street you'll get shot". Sensitive topic, I guess. * EDIT: The nonsense part is people calling Trump to be censored, like OP. I am not condoning violence but I do think looting may lead to it, it's not too far from…

Yes in a fascist society sure but the use of deadly force by the police is usually only when a life is in danger and not any property. Usually non lethal means are employed when the police are following SOP i.e teargas/water or a baton charge.

I don't see how protecting your property is fascist.

I agree that a life is worth much more than any property, but stealing might lead to the death of the victim, so you are not just protecting property.

They could use non lethal force, but it's not radical to think it could escalate.

I think your comment sums it up, Trump needs to be censored in the pursue of societal change, which is a political statement.

Should a platform be making political statements and have protection as if they are neutral?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by tjchear »

luckylion wrote: post #202
human wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listening to that argument is a clear “catch 22”. If he quits his job, it’s not much of a stance but obviously staying is not a stance either. What was he supposed to do? I think that in a capitalist country we choose who we buy from and who we work for. These are two powerful choices that can shape society. He’s doing the right thing.

> He’s doing the right thing. He worked at Facebook, let's not get carried away. Working at Facebook and then leaving because of the non-intervention wrt to the President is a bit like manufacturing landmines quite happily, but having a change of heart because you saw a dog stepping on one. You've still been manufacturing landmines all that time, making money and not giving a damn.

That analogy does not work though. Landmine's sole purpose is to kill/injure whoever steps on it. I don't use Facebook much, but plenty of people have benefited from it.

Instead of personal cost to him, I'd rather view it through the lenses of the impact of his action. It's inviting a lot of constructive conversation and making people re-evaluate Mark's decisions, which I think overall is a net positive.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by testbot123 »

kortilla wrote: post #149
tzs wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it would be more valuable if a janitor quit their job at Facebook than if a developer quit?

Only if the janitor was clearing 250k at Facebook. OP’s idea is sacrificing a high paying job that isn’t easy for you to replace.

Facebook loses much more money with this employee's departure (if their salary is indeed 250k like you're claiming) -- the cost of recruiting, training, and keeping employees is incredibly high, especially in tech.

Now imagine that OP inspires 100 employees quit -- now Facebook has a problem that it must address, because it's threatening their bottom line.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by bananamerica »

0-_-0 wrote: post #324
swagonomixxx wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really a huge stretch, his post on LinkedIn [0] has 200K+ reactions, and it's an understatement to say he'll have no trouble _at all_ getting a job within a few weeks. [0]: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/timothy-j-aveni_blacklivesmat...

This might be overly cynical, but it might be possible that he was already thinking about leaving his job, and now found an excuse to do it in a way that potentially gets him more LinkedIn profile views and thus a better next job (he does end his message with advertising himself)

This is overly cynical and also quite far fetched.
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