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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by mcherm »

noad wrote: post #17

There is nothing praise-worthy about taking a stand now, you should have been out of there ten years ago or never started to begin with. Zuckerberg has been consistently out of control and unaccountable since the Beacon fiasco, which was in like 2008. This is slightly more annoying than all the government officials who only dare criticize the executive branch after they retire. We have way more data over a longer per…

> There is nothing praise-worthy about taking a stand now, you should have been out of there ten years ago or never started to begin with.

That is a ridiculous position. perhaps it would have been wise to do this 10 years ago, or perhaps not it doesn't matter. NOW, it is either the moral thing to do, or it is not. Clearly Mr. Aveni thinks it IS moral, and I applaud him for taking this step (at some significant personal cost) in accordance with his ethics.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by indigochill »

thomasfedb wrote: post #116
majewsky wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> obviously staying is not a stance either This is not obvious to me.

I think the suggestion here is: if you are in a position to leave your job, and you do not, then than is implicit support for your employer.

I might even say explicit support. After all, how better to support a company than directly working for them? In some business models you're probably generating more value for the company working for them than you would as a customer.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by harikb »

blickentwapft wrote: post #14
ordinaryradical wrote: post #8

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

Unless you know some specifics that is not public, he would be leaving significant money on the table. That is, financially sacrificing. If a portion of salary is paid as RSU, that portion would have unvested portions carried over from prior years. My best guess would be that he is losing at least $50k until he closes the gap in about 2 to 3 years at the new job. of course the new job could pay him lot more, I am not ruling that out.

Give him credit for what he did. He is losing a lot more than us armchair pundits.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by zouhair »

blickentwapft wrote: post #14
ordinaryradical wrote: post #8

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

Imagine if all the people that are in a privileged position just say "fuck it, let's do something about it" how life would be better for all.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

Tade0 wrote: post #118
blickentwapft wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

Imagine the damage to the business for not having someone creating more than $250k of value annually. Of course at Facebook's scale it's a small number, but given the damage to their reputation, they will have to take note once this crosses critical mass.

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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by zepto »

artsyca wrote: post #122
blickentwapft wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

I'm calling total BS. He should stay to change the system from within. Total waste of hard work to give up now. This is a knee jerk reaction and the poor lamb is going to live to regret it. I'm surprised they didn't have him out on his ass the same day and gave him a whole extra week to potentially sabotage the systems. Edit: OK fine. I agree it's totally an uphill struggle and in all fairness it's one we're all figh…

Can you advise us on how to change such systems from within?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by satyrnein »

rufusroflpunch wrote: post #63
12xo wrote: post #39

Social media is fast food. If you eat it all the time it makes you feel awful and will destroy your mental and physical health. But its cheap, easy to get and tastes really good... So stupid people love it.

So true. I realized recently that social media makes me think that I hate people that I actually like! You get a quick hit of superiority, but it's the problem the most effective tool I've ever seen to divide us.

Did you get a quick hit of superiority when you agreed that "those" people are stupid, or did you consider that divisive?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by discordance »

masukomi wrote: post #187
blickentwapft wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

he's a "Software Engineer" at facebook. He's not even a "Senior Software Engineer" He is NOT making 250k and he likely lives _near_ facebook which means _most_ of his money is going directly into housing. There are a LOT of people working what is normally considered a high income job in the bay area and living out of their vans because that's the only way they can actually have any money left over at the end of the m…

Levels.fyi disagrees with you

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by swagonomixxx »

First of all, I'm glad this person has seen the light and hopefully others that work at Facebook will see the light and stop working for this evil company.

With that out of the way though, I'm obligated to say that there have been many stages in the lifecycle of Facebook where one could have said "how could they do something this despicable" and leave for another "high impact" job, and it saddens me that things have to reach such a high boiling point (what with all the protests, riots, and so on going on in the US) in order for people to actually realize that they've been propping up an extremely disingenuous and immoral organization.

There have been many opportunities in Facebook's history to say, you know what, what they're doing is really messed up, and it's really immoral, and I can't put up with it anymore.

The cynic in me is saying that this person is piggybacking off of this incredibly tense situation to go viral basically everywhere. His LinkedIn post has north of 200K likes [0] and he'll have absolutely _no_ problem finding work. I truly wish him the best of luck in doing so. But I'm honestly disappointed that it's taken people this long to realize that Facebook is not the bastion of good that they thought it was.

[0]: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/timothy-j-aveni_blacklivesmat...

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