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Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

#21

It sounds like these people were pressured into making a decision under tense circumstances (QUIT IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES OR YOU GET NOTHING). In the US this could probably qualify for nullification as it was made under duress. Don't know anything about Poland.

In the US it probably constitutes criminal fraud, as it's a transparent attempt to evade unemployment benefits. Again, though, Poland and the EU may be different.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

#22

Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

Because they were threatened with their career potentially being ruined with a bad reference?

Is that common? In the US old job never give references either good or bad. Just state dates of employment. I guess they just don’t want to deal with the can of worms of dealing with former employees disagreeing with whatever they say and possibly going to litigation.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

#23

Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

Because they were threatened with their career potentially being ruined with a bad reference?

Do people follow references much?

I don't think anyone has ever contacted my previous employers, despite me having supplied their contact details as a reference numerous times over the years.

Companies are discouraged from saying anything more than the facts of employment ("We can confirm that Bob was employed as a software developer between these dates...") these days, so there's not much value in the new employer bothering as far as I understand.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Revolut is really scary organization... used them for a year or so, and then one day locked my account... harassed me for 6 months, asking for all sorts of documents, which I provided them. then one day, they closed my account, and sent back 2K balance to random people who sent me money in the past. When contacted them via twitter, the blocked my the same day :)

Yeah I knew they were a little farfetched when I saw their head of engineering job spec https://web.archive.org/web/20200406205828/https://jobs.leve... > School/university Olympic medal in competitions in physics, maths or programming :/

• 10+ years as an engineer • Minimum GPA 3.5/4 (US), 60% (UK), 8/10 in any other country

"So we know you've been out of school for 10 years, but can you send us a copy of your report cards?"

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a difference in Portugal between being laid off (for economic reasons) and being fired (for underperforming or misconduct)? I got the impression, perhaps mistaken, that the choice for some of the workers referenced in the article was get fired or take this meager deal.

In Portugal being laid off means (aproximately) getting 2 thirds of your sallary (one third payed by state and one third payed by the employer) and hope to get back to work. Being fired means getting 80%(?) of your sallary and possibly a severance IF you have worked continuosly for at least 6 months AND have a dependent work contract (or equivalent). If you quit you get nothing.

You are confusing a layoff and a furlough. It's not your fault though, the Portuguese government decided to call a furlough a layoff for who knows what reason.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

#26

It sounds like these people were pressured into making a decision under tense circumstances (QUIT IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES OR YOU GET NOTHING). In the US this could probably qualify for nullification as it was made under duress. Don't know anything about Poland.

Duress is a high bar and I don’t think it would apply here.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Revolut is really scary organization... used them for a year or so, and then one day locked my account... harassed me for 6 months, asking for all sorts of documents, which I provided them. then one day, they closed my account, and sent back 2K balance to random people who sent me money in the past. When contacted them via twitter, the blocked my the same day :)

Yeah I knew they were a little farfetched when I saw their head of engineering job spec https://web.archive.org/web/20200406205828/https://jobs.leve... > School/university Olympic medal in competitions in physics, maths or programming :/

That job spec is hilarious: > Worked at a large tech company worth more than US$15B

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

#30

Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

Because they were threatened with their career potentially being ruined with a bad reference?

At this point in the US most companies will refuse to say anything about you other than confirming that you worked there and what your title was. To do anything more is a potential litigation minefield.

Laws are getting tighter too. It’s now illegal in many parts of the US to ask you how much you made in your previous job when that used to be a fairly common question.

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