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Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Being from the US it wasn't immediately clear to me why they would do this.

Found the relevant part of the article:

> In Poland, workers say they were told by their line managers and HR that they were underperforming and would be terminated if they didn’t leave voluntarily. But in Portugal mutual agreements stated that dismissals were a result of a reduction of 40 per cent in the group’s activity and a 30 per cent excess in staff numbers. By getting employees to voluntarily leave, Revolut has avoided launching a group redundancy consultation, that, among other things would give employees the right to severance payments and the chance to be offered alternative roles within the company. “[Mutual agreement] is better for Revolut because they can’t go to labour court [employment tribunal],” says the source from the HR department. “The way they prepare the terminations are so bad that if someone would go to court Revolut would lose,” the source claims.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

Is there a difference in Portugal between being laid off (for economic reasons) and being fired (for underperforming or misconduct)? I got the impression, perhaps mistaken, that the choice for some of the workers referenced in the article was get fired or take this meager deal.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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post #4

Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

Is there a difference in Portugal between being laid off (for economic reasons) and being fired (for underperforming or misconduct)? I got the impression, perhaps mistaken, that the choice for some of the workers referenced in the article was get fired or take this meager deal.

They could be using the old HR blackmail trick from the book where if you agree to leave they promise to give you an awesome letter of recommendation whereas if you let them fire you for underperforming reasons they'll give you a iffy sounding letter of recommendation.

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Why on earth would anyone voluntarily quit, particularly as in Portugal you will be eligable for unemployment benefits from having been laid-off, vs quitting and not being eligable for the same. Call their bluff. (I live in Portugal, and some foolish bosses tried the same and were rebuffed. FWIW the gov't agreed to pay 60% of the workers benefits during the lockdown in an effort to stem layoffs and furloughs etc.)

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Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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Being from the US it wasn't immediately clear to me why they would do this. Found the relevant part of the article: > In Poland, workers say they were told by their line managers and HR that they were underperforming and would be terminated if they didn’t leave voluntarily. But in Portugal mutual agreements stated that dismissals were a result of a reduction of 40 per cent in the group’s activity and a 30 per cent ex…

Sounds like the employees should go to court, then.

Re: Revolut staff claim they’ve been told to quit their jobs or be fired

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it is just sad to see the same tactics(people being bullied into "mutual agreement") used now as in 90s in Eastern Europe. that is good enough reason to not use their product at all. I am sure there is plenty of capable competitors.

I've seen the same tactics used in Germany as well.

Basically the HR rep and their line manager call them in a meeting room and play good cop - bad cop so they end up just signing whatever the good cop says is "best" for them.

That's why lots of companies here love hiring young expats sine they're easy to abuse like this as they're new in the country, don't have anyone to ask for help, don't know the language, don't know the law, don't qualify yet for unemployment and can't afford a lawyer and are emotionally vulnerable so they'll blindly sign whatever HR gives them and focus on finding a new job ASAP instead of fighting them in court.

It's one of the reasons I avoid working in companies that focus on hiring mostly expats.

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