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iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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To be fair I am an iOS user and found the reactions an unnecessary and annoying gimmick. It’s faster to just type the “laughing with tears” emoji and press send than to use the equivalent reaction.

It’s much easier to heart the thousandth photo of a fuzzy critter my sister has saved than to formulate a response. When it’s all iPhone users the chat is a lot cleaner too.

The android user would prefer Apple just didn’t communicate the reaction.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Woah, that’s a thing?

Yes, works fine. It's a bit silly to run an entire VM for a single application, but it does the trick. https://github.com/foxlet/macOS-Simple-KVM

It's like running a copy of entire complex web browser just to draw pretty chat GUI. Oh wait... :)

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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« A year and a half ago, I heeded the growing warning signs that indicated the looming demise of macOS, née OS X, as a platform for developer and true computer enthusiasts, and set about trying to find a new ecosystem.» The power of synthesis

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Blame Google for never getting messaging right and having multiple chat apps at the sane time. I’m buying my parents an iPad just because every other type video chat is more convoluted than just clicking on FaceTime from contacts.

Never understood this argument. My parents from a 3rd world country who barely understand English are able to use 3rd party apps like Whatsapp, Duo, Skype just fine. And Duo works directly from your contacts app too (at least in Pixel and Samsung phones), in fact you can see options like "Video call xxx Message XXX with a logo of the apps that support it right in the contacts apps.

And then that’s another thing they have to sign into as opposed to just looking in their contacts and choosing the FaceTime icon.

And as far as Duo - only if you have a Samsung phone or Pixel? If you have to buy a new phone anyway - since the entire Android ecosystem is a clusterf* when it comes to upgrades - you might as well get one that is going to be supported for years.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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People definitely do. The worst part is, an excellent upgrade exists. The RCS experience between Android users is pretty much as good as iMessage. Apple could support this; not to replace iMessage, but to upgrade SMS conversations. My tech-illiterate mom's Galaxy S negative 12 has it. Of my contacts, every single Android user I text (maybe a dozen) has RCS. Its standard. When I put my iPhone XS and my S20 Plus side-b…

>a sonic sub-pixel fingerprint reader Just hope nobody who steals your phone puts a screen protector on it. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/10127908/samsung-galaxy-s10-sc...

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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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I don't see how it conveys status when used iPhones are cheap, and brand new ones start at $400 now. My lowest paid hourly employees all have iPhones, even the ones who don't speak English.

And in the US, all of the major carriers have 0% interest payment plans. The cost difference is basically nothing over 2 years.

Apple itself sells the phone with 0% interest if you were going to buy AppleCare.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Yeah I mean there will little tiny things different on each app, but it's not a big deal breaker for many. Whatsapp is the biggest IM on the planet for a reason. People could easily ditch iMessage in favour of Whatsapp if they wanted to, but for some reason Americans don't do that.

I don’t use What’s App for the simple reason I like how my contacts are integrated across my Apple devices. From email, to “normal” phone calls, to Siri, calendar invites, and even directions “hey Siri, directions to Tom’s work” — it all works seamlessly. If I want to send someone a location from Maps, it’s seamless. If I am using something like Find My, I can easily send a message from there — or even create a Short…

It's not a problem on Android at all and just a limitation of the Apple platforms.

When I try to use a "share" action for example, I get my contacts from the phone and Whatsapp at the same level. My list of contacts actually has a merged view of all my contacts stored on my phone, Whatsapp and other services. Contacts on multiple services are merged appropriately.

It works just fine.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Apple set up colocated servers across the world and changed the Facetime protocol significantly to work around a single patent (a patent for direct device to device communication of all things). I can’t imagine a patent dispute actually stopping them if they were firm on making FT an open standard.

I come from a land where patents don’t really work. I often wonder, are there any examples of patents in the field of software engineering that worked like they supposed to, protecting small collectives from powerful corporations?

As someone who pays attention but does not proactively search out patent litigation information most of the time, I would say it’s rare. The most benefit I see for smaller collectives is:

- Patenting an idea that’s core to their business. Doesn’t really prevent immediate attacks from clones, but it does make it much easier for them to get funding from VCs. - Inventors who license the ideas: they patent, then contact manufacturers.

Note: These are not really software-specific as I’m not aware of any software cases where patents benefit smaller businesses.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Blame Google for never getting messaging right and having multiple chat apps at the sane time. I’m buying my parents an iPad just because every other type video chat is more convoluted than just clicking on FaceTime from contacts.

Never understood this argument. My parents from a 3rd world country who barely understand English are able to use 3rd party apps like Whatsapp, Duo, Skype just fine. And Duo works directly from your contacts app too (at least in Pixel and Samsung phones), in fact you can see options like "Video call xxx Message XXX with a logo of the apps that support it right in the contacts apps.

Duo came out too late, and Google has a reputation for changing things. Years ago, I tried setting up my family with google’s apps, and they kept changing, and it burned me and wasted my time. So years ago, I switched everyone to Apple, and haven’t wasted any time since.

WhatsApp is really nice, but you need a phone for it, which some of the older grandparents don’t have. But they do have cheap iPads, so everyone uses FaceTime.

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