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iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Having had this problem myself, my first thought was VLC or some other kind of Remote Desktop solution. Surely I can ‘stream’ a window from my OSX host and not care about the implementation or boobytraps?

In the end Windows was a complete fail for me so I never pursued it.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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For anyone who is interested in making an iMessage proxy and has time to spend: There is a legitimate way to interact with the iMessage system with a standard protocol. It requires you to have a host iPhone (no jailbreaking needed). What you need to have is a Bluetooth adapter with MAP (Message Access Profile) support. Your iPhone will treat all messages from the MAP protocol as if they are from the Messages app. Thi…

> What you need to have is a Bluetooth adapter with MAP (Message Access Profile) support. When you send a message from the MAP protocol, then your iPhone will treat all messages as if they are sent from the Messages app. What is the “legitimate” reason for this? Bluetooth accessories that can send messages, ideally from the MFI program?

Common use cases include car dashboards that read your SMS out loud and smartwatches.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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> 90% of the people might already have an iPhone 85%+ of the world's on Android, think outside your social circle =]

> 85%+ of the world's on Android I'm assuming the majority seems to be third-world countries because in big UK cities the majority of the phones I see around are iPhones.

The UK seems to be about 50% iOS.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/271240/android-market-sh...

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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For me - it's simply a question of reliability. SMS is not reliable in the US, and I live in an area with poor coverage. My preferred mode of communication is texting but SMS is a no-go.

If it’s of any solace, SMS is not reliable anywhere in the world. It may seem reliable sometimes in some places, but that’s mostly a facade.

How do you know that?

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Well given that it also does not do it on android I dont see that mattering.

Not really an Android or WhatsApp user, so my perspective there is probably not all that relevant ;) I am curious if any apps there fall back to SMS? I think Hangouts might have a long time back?

Signal does.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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iMessage motivates people to people buy iPhones instead of Android when everyone else in a social circle has it. Why should Apple give up on that? What will Apple gain from making it ubiquitous? It would in fact disappoint many people as now they can't use their phone to distance themselves from the people who don't have that blue circle. Note that I'm arguing from Apple's perspective here. From my own I believe they…

iMessage is ABSOLUTELY brilliant if your family and friends are all on iPhones, which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. Regardless whether you agree with that, it is super practical for me and my family. It also means we don't have run other chat software like WhatsApp. The whole experience is just so seamless and well integrated across your devices. Everything from regular messages, voiceno…

In my social circle everyone uses something completely different, not just for messaging.

I need all of Threema, Signal, Skype, iMessage and email just for my closest friends and family.

I also need Google Photos, Google Drive and OneDrive to share data with them.

Apple is the most anti-social platform of them all. I can't even use it to share photos with my wife.

I have never used FaceTime with anyone, because no one uses it, not even those who do have iPhones, because they all have to use something else to communicate with others.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Like pretty much every other messaging app on every phone platform currently existence?

Other messaging apps have the same features as iMessage, but not the same user experience. For example, WhatsApp has a pretty massive spam and fake news problem, and Facebook messenger is significantly slower and applies a high degree of compression on media. iMessage offers the best UX, and that’s why, in my experience, iOS users will almost always opt to use iMessage over competitors when communicating with other i…

Depends where you live. No one I know uses SMS or iMessage. Everyone uses whatsapp. SMS is a weird appendix of a thing on your phone contract, used only for automated reminders from companies. And iMessage is pretty much useless because then you can't send messages to 60% of people, and besides, they're in whatsapp anyway.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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iMessage motivates people to people buy iPhones instead of Android when everyone else in a social circle has it. Why should Apple give up on that? What will Apple gain from making it ubiquitous? It would in fact disappoint many people as now they can't use their phone to distance themselves from the people who don't have that blue circle. Note that I'm arguing from Apple's perspective here. From my own I believe they…

iMessage is ABSOLUTELY brilliant if your family and friends are all on iPhones, which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. Regardless whether you agree with that, it is super practical for me and my family. It also means we don't have run other chat software like WhatsApp. The whole experience is just so seamless and well integrated across your devices. Everything from regular messages, voiceno…

Only 40% of people have iPhone in the Netherlands, for example. Everyone uses whatsapp.

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To be fair I am an iOS user and found the reactions an unnecessary and annoying gimmick. It’s faster to just type the “laughing with tears” emoji and press send than to use the equivalent reaction.

I really like the "Liked" reaction after a former boss used it to signify "+1".

I've found that, in my social groups, "Liked" gets used as an acknowledgement for anything that doesn't require further discussion. Seems to clear up group chats of endless OKs back and forth, so I'm all for it.

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Apple set up colocated servers across the world and changed the Facetime protocol significantly to work around a single patent (a patent for direct device to device communication of all things). I can’t imagine a patent dispute actually stopping them if they were firm on making FT an open standard.

I come from a land where patents don’t really work. I often wonder, are there any examples of patents in the field of software engineering that worked like they supposed to, protecting small collectives from powerful corporations?

I think you meant patents, unless your country is strangely unproductive and/or critically in danger of dying out ;)
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