I wonder what happened to “Business Chat”. It was announced on WWDC in 2018 and I have seen no progress since. It’s a shame. The potential of it is huge I believe, but Apple has a different focus it seems.
iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is confusing about Duo? It's a phone-number-based video caller. It's one of the simpler messaging apps that Google has made.
Duo: A simple app with a confusing name, released four years ago to compete with another app that Google made that did the same thing but more, and released as a matched set with a different app which also had a confusing name but is now discontinued. Forgive me if I’m getting old and can’t keep up with this shit. I make video calls through four different apps depending on who I’m talking to, and I just can’t be both…
It seems to have taken off already :
> That's the case for many people these days–in fact, every week, over 10 million new people are signing up for Duo, and in many countries, call minutes have increased by more than ten-fold. https://www.blog.google/products/duo/4-new-google-duo-featur....
Disclaimer : Google employee but work far away from duo but use it daily with family and friends.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#203I wonder what happened to “Business Chat”. It was announced on WWDC in 2018 and I have seen no progress since. It’s a shame. The potential of it is huge I believe, but Apple has a different focus it seems.
It exists for some retailers, like Home Depot. It doesn’t work like I would expect though, in HD’s case it looked like it was routed through a Salesforce extension.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#204It is really interesting to see the difference between countries, I travel between Asia and Europe and I knew that iMessage existed, but I thought people dropped it like SMS, years ago. Interesting to see that in a globalized world some differences still persist. I have asked around me to Iphone owners if they used iMessage and they almost never use it. It must be something specific to the US. Please do not downvote…
So people don't use SMS outside the US? I knew WhatsApp was big in other countries, but didn't realize no one even uses SMS not iMessage. What do people use in Europe?
SMS is considered as really obsolete in Europe, even older people use WhatsApp. I think I have not sent a single SMS in the last 2 years. In Asia there are other services like WeChat (China) or Zalo (Vietnam) that are really popular, it really depends on the country. Sending an SMS feels like sendig a fax.
Regarding iMessage, I guess it's the same as BBM in the late 2000's, if you don't have it people might consider you are not cool enough to talk to them.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#205I found training a bunch of birds to take notes to people for me to be much easier. I am in the process of training them how to use the printer and scanner too so i can text people who on my computer too.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#206Ok, so a comment on the actual content of the article rather than iMessage in general: I do the kinds of things that the author describes in the article (digging into private implementations of things) and I while I believe all of iMessage is a bit obfuscatory it's not nearly as bad as the author has described it. Really, it's one of the places where Hanlon's razor actually applies: the AppleScript bridge sucks because AppleScript in general sucks, as Apple has let it decay until it stops working entirely. The iMessage team for macOS is already kinda eh, and it shows in the app's architecture and lack of new features for years, as well as its fairly strange usage of a web view (actually the long-deprecated one…) for the main content. The rest of the stuff about private frameworks…I mean, I don't really know what to say. They're not meant to be linked against, they're undocumented, they change and disappear between releases…you really cannot complain about them. They're not Apple making it harder for you, they are just a side effect of how Apple writes its applications and the fact that the entire OS is proprietary. Some do venture into that realm (such as the author and I) and find meaning, but I disagree with the characterization that Apple is fighting against reverse engineers by making you dig through class-dump output and figure out how to marshal your arguments through the right function to make it do what you want.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
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You're a moron, I don't even care about any temp ban for saying that, too. Anyone who thinks like you do is a moron.
There are other people on this site, too, besides you and 'elliekelly. Please don't do this even though you think a ban to punish you is appropriate. (As punishment, it sure doesn't help the people who had their discussion quality lowered…)
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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
The parent comment mentioned some of the reasons why it goes beyond the normal "lol you're too poor to buy an iPhone". SMS chats are majorly crippled compared to iMessage ones, and this is technical functionality, not just bubble color. You can't really change the people in an SMS chat, iMessage features don't work (in some instances hilariously: you'll get a text like "so-and-so liked this message" instead of a reac…
But people can just use LINE, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Instagram, messenger, etc and get all the features and more which in my experience as an android user is what actually happens than this weird shallow world of green and blue bubbles I've heard about on the internet. Different friend groups may prefer different platforms, but it's pretty rare where someone new to the group refuses what the group is already using, whic…
As has been mentioned many times in the other comments, those force you to download something, perhaps make an account, make sure everyone has it…whereas 90% of the people might already have an iPhone, which might be better than the number for anything else.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
The parent comment mentioned some of the reasons why it goes beyond the normal "lol you're too poor to buy an iPhone". SMS chats are majorly crippled compared to iMessage ones, and this is technical functionality, not just bubble color. You can't really change the people in an SMS chat, iMessage features don't work (in some instances hilariously: you'll get a text like "so-and-so liked this message" instead of a reac…
You can use Whatsapp or other IMs though, which is what the rest of the world is doing. No one really uses SMS anymore
People do absolutely use SMS.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whatsapp brings the same features, if not more. iMessage craze is a purely American phenomenon, the rest of the world has moved on to other IMs
Well the most annoying thing about whatsapp (other than its owned by Facebook) is that it can't automatically fallback to sms for contacts not using it. But not all of the world have moved to whatsapp. I am from Scandinavian and I only have a very limited number of contacts available on whatsapp, most are on iMessage.
On iOS, that's not by any fault of WhatsApp.