iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018) • Hacker News Board

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:24 AM UTC

Nextgrid wrote: post #162

collegeburner wrote: post #145

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High school senior here; I can second the prevalence of this experience starting in middle school. Oh and texting an i phone user sucks because those reactions come through like: Loved "blah blah blah" Please when texting us android plebians don't use those reaction things.

To be fair I am an iOS user and found the reactions an unnecessary and annoying gimmick. It’s faster to just type the “laughing with tears” emoji and press send than to use the equivalent reaction.

I really like the "Liked" reaction after a former boss used it to signify "+1".

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:25 AM UTC

aaomidi wrote: post #98

jamescostian wrote: post #79

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I'm 22 and live in a mid-sized city, and I've seen people trying to get into a relationship (or even something more casual, but not a platonic friendship) get rejected because of the dreaded "green bubbles" - and really, I'm not exaggerating. And not from rich people who have the latest iPhone either. In addition, I have been in friend groups that would exclude Android users because if you have even 1 Android user in…

More of a reason not to be friends with them.

Sadly, this is not how relationships work and exactly how entrenched social networks come into existence.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by rhlsthrm » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:25 AM UTC

AnonC wrote: post #113

harpratap wrote: post #87

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Whatsapp brings the same features, if not more. iMessage craze is a purely American phenomenon, the rest of the world has moved on to other IMs

No, WhatsApp does not bring the same features. WhatsApp is very different. You can react to messages in iMessage, which is just one among other features WhatsApp doesn’t have.

I use both iMessage and WhatsApp heavily, the annoying thing about iMessage is the lack of ability to quote messages and @people.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:27 AM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #166

collegeburner wrote: post #155

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HS senior here. Maybe a little, but it's mostly status/class. It's the twenty-first century equivalent of wearing expensive clothes to school.

I don't see how it conveys status when used iPhones are cheap, and brand new ones start at $400 now. My lowest paid hourly employees all have iPhones, even the ones who don't speak English.

But iPhones sell themselves as expensive, and that's really what lingers in people's consciousness, doesn't it?

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by 0xCMP » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:28 AM UTC

harpratap wrote: post #175

quantummkv wrote: post #153

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In my experience, it has. I use both iMessages and Whatsapp in India. I have never dealt with fake news and all the low signal forwarded memes and garbage on iMessages. Whatsapp, on the other hand, is filled with it. The only solace in whatsapp is that I can disable auto media downloading to escape it to some extent.

This has more to do with people who use whatsapp vs people who use iMessage. If all the people who use whastapp migrated to iMessage, the same problem will happen there.

It might, but part of why it happens is that the app makes it easy for that to happen and users are trained.

Think how "redditors" talk vs how we do here in HN. We have clear rules about what this forum is about. Commenting "lol" -> "loll" -> "lolll" is not accepted. You'll be warned, marked "dead", or outright banned.

Moderation in a messaging app only happens at scale via UX.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by 2fast4you » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:28 AM UTC

It’s weird to see a project you’ve thought about for so long actually completed. I’ve toyed with it a little, but I only dug as far as AppleScript.

This gives me a bit of hope, I might take another crack at it sometime.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by msh » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:29 AM UTC

harpratap wrote: post #87

philistine wrote: post #53

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You know, for a tech site, people sure do love to forget that iMessage is preferred because it brings features instead of mere social status.

Whatsapp brings the same features, if not more. iMessage craze is a purely American phenomenon, the rest of the world has moved on to other IMs

Well the most annoying thing about whatsapp (other than its owned by Facebook) is that it can't automatically fallback to sms for contacts not using it.

But not all of the world have moved to whatsapp. I am from Scandinavian and I only have a very limited number of contacts available on whatsapp, most are on iMessage.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by msh » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:30 AM UTC

013a wrote: post #101

harpratap wrote: post #50

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> Why, though? Does your average iPhone user actually care if the bubbles they see in their chats are blue or green? If so, why? They definitely do. Not sure what your age or demographic is, but young folks do care a lot about higher social status which is tied to blue bubble because of iPhone prices. It has nothing to do with privacy though.

People definitely do. The worst part is, an excellent upgrade exists. The RCS experience between Android users is pretty much as good as iMessage. Apple could support this; not to replace iMessage, but to upgrade SMS conversations. My tech-illiterate mom's Galaxy S negative 12 has it. Of my contacts, every single Android user I text (maybe a dozen) has RCS. Its standard. When I put my iPhone XS and my S20 Plus side-b…

RCS is only rolled out in a limited number of countries.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:30 AM UTC

battery_cowboy wrote: post #126

elliekelly wrote: post #100

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They absolutely should care. I’m not adding you to a group text if you have an android. Life is too short to read green text bubbles.

You're a moron, I don't even care about any temp ban for saying that, too. Anyone who thinks like you do is a moron.

There are other people on this site, too, besides you and 'elliekelly. Please don't do this even though you think a ban to punish you is appropriate. (As punishment, it sure doesn't help the people who had their discussion quality lowered…)

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 5:31 AM UTC

toasterlovin wrote: post #96

sandeeps_ wrote: post #69

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Looks like you have never used Whatsapp!

In the US, nobody uses WhatsApp, so it’s not a realistic option. Network effects are a thing.

There's a lot of people who use WhatsApp even in the US. Perhaps not as many as iMessage, but it's still a household name.