Live data from Hacker News

iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

neosmart.net

141–150 of 480 posts

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#141
It is really interesting to see the difference between countries, I travel between Asia and Europe and I knew that iMessage existed, but I thought people dropped it like SMS, years ago. Interesting to see that in a globalized world some differences still persist. I have asked around me to Iphone owners if they used iMessage and they almost never use it. It must be something specific to the US.

Please do not downvote me for not living in the US :)

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#142
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> SMS spam That's just SMS though - unless you mean blue bubbles being spam. I haven't received any of those, but if you do there's always a "report spam" link at the top of the conversation for senders you've never seen before.

That was my point with "when it's going to the same app". Messages from SMS and iMessage both show up in the same "Messages" app, and are indistinguishable from each other. So it doesn't matter if you're getting spam only from SMS when the app is still lighting up all the time.

My point is that this isn't exclusive to iOS; if you move to Android, that SMS spam isn't going away. Unless you can mute Android's SMS app because you receive 0 legitimate SMS messages, you'll be dealing with the same problem.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#143
Oh man. Apple has us by the nuts. I love my iMessage. I've been on a macbook for ~10 years, but I just started working at Microsoft and thus have been spending a lot of time in Windows. Multiple times per day I think of something I want to send my wife, like a link to something I'm reading or something, and I look for the iMessage on the dock and of course there is no dock and no iMessage. I want iMessage for Windows. and Linux.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iMessage is a much better user experience. Users associate the blue bubbles with that.

Like pretty much every other messaging app on every phone platform currently existence?

No, because at least in the US, iMessage has one thing that no other messaging app has - install base.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why, though? Does your average iPhone user actually care if the bubbles they see in their chats are blue or green? If so, why? They definitely do. Not sure what your age or demographic is, but young folks do care a lot about higher social status which is tied to blue bubble because of iPhone prices. It has nothing to do with privacy though.

I'm 22 and live in a mid-sized city, and I've seen people trying to get into a relationship (or even something more casual, but not a platonic friendship) get rejected because of the dreaded "green bubbles" - and really, I'm not exaggerating. And not from rich people who have the latest iPhone either. In addition, I have been in friend groups that would exclude Android users because if you have even 1 Android user in…

High school senior here; I can second the prevalence of this experience starting in middle school.

Oh and texting an i phone user sucks because those reactions come through like: Loved "blah blah blah"

Please when texting us android plebians don't use those reaction things.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I mean there will little tiny things different on each app, but it's not a big deal breaker for many. Whatsapp is the biggest IM on the planet for a reason. People could easily ditch iMessage in favour of Whatsapp if they wanted to, but for some reason Americans don't do that.

The idea of moving to a different chat platform won’t even come up if your current system has the features you need and everyone you want to reach is on it. What would nudge a group to collectively move to WhatsApp if iMessage is the default and works well for them?

> What would nudge a group to collectively move to WhatsApp if iMessage is the default and works well for them?

The fact their choice leads to needless exclusion of people who would otherwise be their friends.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google Duo and WhatsApp are the competitors to Facetime. Zoom is more of a competitor in the video conferencing space along with Google Meet, Skype for Business and Cisco WebEx. Regular Skype is more of a competitor in the all-in-one consumer messaging space along with Google Hangouts. Unfortunately all are proprietary and it was the previous generation, iChat and Google Talk, that were based on the open XMPP…

Is Google Duo much of a competitor? Hangouts is circling the drain, Allo is dead, and everyone I know is confused by Duo, including Google employees. If you made a list of the ways Google employees made video calls to each other outside work, I’d be suprised if Duo were in the top three.

What is confusing about Duo? It's a phone-number-based video caller. It's one of the simpler messaging apps that Google has made.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#149
post #141

It is really interesting to see the difference between countries, I travel between Asia and Europe and I knew that iMessage existed, but I thought people dropped it like SMS, years ago. Interesting to see that in a globalized world some differences still persist. I have asked around me to Iphone owners if they used iMessage and they almost never use it. It must be something specific to the US. Please do not downvote…

In the US I would say it's not only "used" but is the default and almost only message system that most iPhone and Mac folks use. It works really well and it's built into the phone... that, and network effects are strong I guess.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#150
post #141

It is really interesting to see the difference between countries, I travel between Asia and Europe and I knew that iMessage existed, but I thought people dropped it like SMS, years ago. Interesting to see that in a globalized world some differences still persist. I have asked around me to Iphone owners if they used iMessage and they almost never use it. It must be something specific to the US. Please do not downvote…

Yeah, a very US specific thing.

I live in an international home in the US, and every person except the Americans use Whatsapp. The American compromise is usually Messenger or getting eventually strong armed into using Whatsapp too.

Post reply on HN