iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#2Anyone know the reason why there's no iMessage for windows? Is it supposed to act as some kind of gateway drug into the Mac ecosystem?
Apple seems to have quite a few of these 'unspoken unfeatures'. Perhaps someone can tell me why there are no web browsers allowed on AppleTV devices?
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#3If ever Apple needed to open source server and client code for a public good it is with imessages. Yes it has clear limits with a centralized server, but it is realistically how a lot of “secure” messaging happens and it’s very difficult to endorse being tied to expensive hardware.
You can say the same about facetime: it is clearly higher quality than competitors in every experiment I’ve tried, but their refusal to interact with the wider software community means we all use zoom or skype instead for personal chatting. These are tools; they should be effectively free and universal.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#4Meanwhile, https://airmessage.org/ seems to have existed for quite some time now...?
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#5Meanwhile, https://airmessage.org/ seems to have existed for quite some time now...?
This software requires a server component to be run on a mac. It's not self-contained.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#6If ever Apple needed to open source server and client code for a public good it is with imessages. Yes it has clear limits with a centralized server, but it is realistically how a lot of “secure” messaging happens and it’s very difficult to endorse being tied to expensive hardware. You can say the same about facetime: it is clearly higher quality than competitors in every experiment I’ve tried, but their refusal to i…
The main selling point of Zoom seems to be their handling of large group conferences though.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#7Steve said iMessage would be an open standard way back in the 2000s. Still waiting.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#8Anyone know the reason why there's no iMessage for windows? Is it supposed to act as some kind of gateway drug into the Mac ecosystem? Apple seems to have quite a few of these 'unspoken unfeatures'. Perhaps someone can tell me why there are no web browsers allowed on AppleTV devices?
Its because they use peer pressure to get you to buy an apple device. You can invite an android user to an imessage group but it apparently downgrades the feature set of the group for everyone, they also color messages from android users differently. Its all designed to discourage talking to android users so they eventually buy an iphone.
Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#9Anyone know the reason why there's no iMessage for windows? Is it supposed to act as some kind of gateway drug into the Mac ecosystem? Apple seems to have quite a few of these 'unspoken unfeatures'. Perhaps someone can tell me why there are no web browsers allowed on AppleTV devices?
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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)
#10If ever Apple needed to open source server and client code for a public good it is with imessages. Yes it has clear limits with a centralized server, but it is realistically how a lot of “secure” messaging happens and it’s very difficult to endorse being tied to expensive hardware. You can say the same about facetime: it is clearly higher quality than competitors in every experiment I’ve tried, but their refusal to i…
Who's "we all" here? The "wider software community"? There are certainly tens of millions of users of FaceTime; I'd wager more than the entire population of the "wider software community".
I don't disagree with the ideological position but personally I find it harder to argue with the economics without having also created and operated a billion dollar services and hardware business.
Interestingly I can't find recent authoritative DAU/MAU stats for iMessage or FaceTime; the last time Tim Cook seems to have quoted numbers was in 2014: https://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/02/apple-handles-40-billion-i...