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Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

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Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#31

Lockdowns are effective as tourniquets, but indefinite or long term use was never logical. There should have been more forward-thinking and pragmatic options pushed earlier. We will now see the natural repercussions of lockdown-centered policies.

Nobody was ever advocating for indefinite or long-term lockdown policies. That's a strawman.

I would characterize basically all the the lockdowns as indefinite.

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#32

Lockdowns are effective as tourniquets, but indefinite or long term use was never logical. There should have been more forward-thinking and pragmatic options pushed earlier. We will now see the natural repercussions of lockdown-centered policies.

Nobody was ever advocating for indefinite or long-term lockdown policies. That's a strawman.

Which universe do you live in?

“Los Angeles County, which has recorded the highest number of coronavirus cases and deaths in California, has extended stay-at-home orders indefinitely.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/LA-to-extend-sta...

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#33
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder who downvotes this and why.

Probably someone who actually looked into what QE actually does--it's more deflationary than inflationary. Look at Japan--they've been doing forms of QE for decades. These Fed printing money, inflation trolls are almost never right even though they've been screaming about it for decades.

Japan's never tried printing the global reserve currency. Yen was a much smaller local experiment. There's no guarantee that Brazil will continue paying USD for Huawei equipment indefinitely.

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#34
post #8

Guy has what looks like a luxury truck and is apparently having trouble deciding between food and his car payment. Sell the car, get a cheap used beater, reduce expenses, keep looking for a job. Not sure what NPR wants me to take from this example.

If enough people experience this in aggregate it still has big effects on the economy. You’re focusing on the wrong thing

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#35
post #17

This is just the start. Landlords would be smart to work with tenants to share some of the loss and renegotiate temporary adjustments to keep at least some revenue coming in because the heady days of high demand for rental units is likely behind us for a while. It'll be worse in downtown areas. I've heard from multiple firms that are looking at downsizing their expensive office space and continuing to allow employees…

Why do you say this? By all accounts, in the UK at least, rental demand has boomed compared to last since lockdown restrictions eased

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52847319

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#36

If there is no spike in infections within two weeks, from areas which had large public protests in the past week, can millions of Americans be helped by restarting the economy?

>If there is no spike in infections within two weeks, from areas which had large public protests in the past week, can millions of Americans be helped by restarting the economy?

Daily new infections have more than doubled here in North Carolina in the last two weeks since "reopening" [0]. We have had more new cases in the last two weeks (2200) than in the entire length of lockdown from March until then (2000). The death rate has massively spiked beginning May 24th, exactly two weeks (the median time from infection to death) from May 9th, the day the governor relaxed restrictions [1]. The dream of this thing just magically going away is absolutely delusional.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/north-carolina-c...

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/north-carolina-c...

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#37
post #11

Yet the S&P500 is still green. The Fed continues to print in order to delay the inevitable. Either a currency crisis or hyperinflation.

I wonder who downvotes this and why.

QE has been going on for years since 2008. Still waiting on that inflation.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-i...

QE contains an easy break on inflation. If it starts surging, the market can just have the assets the fed holds added back to it.

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

#38
post #26
post #17

This is just the start. Landlords would be smart to work with tenants to share some of the loss and renegotiate temporary adjustments to keep at least some revenue coming in because the heady days of high demand for rental units is likely behind us for a while. It'll be worse in downtown areas. I've heard from multiple firms that are looking at downsizing their expensive office space and continuing to allow employees…

In California for example, due to state-wide rent control, it's very dangerous for a landlord to lower rents. I would rather offer 6 months free rent than lock into permanent nonadjustable lower rent situation.

If a lot of landlords start exploiting that loophole, I wouldn't be surprised if the law were revised to be based on the average rent over a year, or something similar.

Re: Millions of Americans skipping payments as wave of defaults and evictions looms

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably someone who actually looked into what QE actually does--it's more deflationary than inflationary. Look at Japan--they've been doing forms of QE for decades. These Fed printing money, inflation trolls are almost never right even though they've been screaming about it for decades.

Japan's never tried printing the global reserve currency. Yen was a much smaller local experiment. There's no guarantee that Brazil will continue paying USD for Huawei equipment indefinitely.

Let us all embrace the natural experiment about to occur.
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