I am looking forward to it.
Matrix gets better and better, and at the same time still more exciting.
P2P Matrix
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Re: P2P Matrix
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true for anything where difficulty is measured by a continuous function -- that is, everything is easiest for a state sponsored anything, good or bad, unless it can't be done at all. You're really just saying states have more resources than individuals... which is true almost by definition (they aggregate individuals within their realm)
But the underlying point of the comment still stands. Just making account creation more costly doesn‘t stop spam... it just makes it more expensive. Same for all other legal activities which are then also more expensive. Thus, it‘s not a perfect solution (if at all).
> making account creation more costly doesn‘t stop spam... it just makes it more expensive
But that's the only thing that has ever been effective against spam. Spam exists because the marginal cost of spamming is 0. This puts a floor on the marginal cost of spamming; if it costs at least this much to spam, then only spammers that make back that much will exist, which eliminates most spammers.
Re: P2P Matrix
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true for anything where difficulty is measured by a continuous function -- that is, everything is easiest for a state sponsored anything, good or bad, unless it can't be done at all. You're really just saying states have more resources than individuals... which is true almost by definition (they aggregate individuals within their realm)
not true. in a truly organic network, where you actually know the graph back to you, it is very difficult for a state actor. ironically, facebook is in a position that is perfect for this, and they go out of their way to not see it. ...I guess because being able to block content based on dislikes by your immediate friends would make it too hard to expose you to all the sponsored posts.
In that case.. it's difficult for anyone. It's still not any better for a state actor versus anyone else -- you've just upped the difficulty so high that it even includes state actors.
That is, (I believe) it is not possible to construct a nefarious deed that is harder for a state actor than an individual to execute. It is only possible to construct scenarios that are hard enough that both state actors and individuals cannot execute it.
A state can do anything a group can do, and a group can do anything an individual can do. They're supersets of one-another, in terms of capability and resource.
There is no "sounds perfect for a state-sponsored" anything -- everything is perfect for a state-sponsored entity, unless it cannot be done at all (because who has greater capability than a state? Other than a coalition of states, or even further, galactic nation-states)
>not true. in a truly organic network, where you actually know the graph back to you, it is very difficult for a state actor.
An entity with sufficient resources & time can probably defeat this -- the main thing is to generate more "accounts" or whatever;
need proof of id? Sufficiently good counterfeits.
need DNA proof? rob of a morgue.
users police themselves? make sufficiently "attractive"/fake accounts and add randomly until you get added by enough people, and then their friends, and then spam until you get blocked and do it again);
and hide them sufficiently well, faster than the governing entity(ies) can identify and remove them.
Sounds perfect for my galactic nation-state.
Re: P2P Matrix
#174This is a really interesting project, thanks for sharing!
> "We also want to take a look at the DAT / hypercore / hyperswarm / Cabal ecosystem to see if there’s a match :) "
In collaboration with the Hyper* team we have built a p2p chat app prototype using the hyper* stack and would like to share this with you.
> "Firstly: we do not yet have a solution for “store and forward” nodes which can relay messages on behalf of a room if all the participating devices are offline."
The main selling point for our prototype is how we are approaching and solving this exact problem. We're sure you will find it interesting.
I've reached out to your support email so that we can figure something out.
Re: P2P Matrix
#175Original comment below but I decided instead to go for the following: I am extremely proud of what work is being done online today to secure communications. While we have companies telemetrying our native stacks[1], web browsers[2], and messaging platforms[3], we also have people working on software that doesn't do those things and still tries to empower the user to get what they need done without being a double agen…
> No voice comms | Voice and video comms
incorrect. I use voice/video over matrix every day.
Re: P2P Matrix
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like it's still relying on Ethereum, which IMO is irresponsible from a climate change / energy use point of view.
Do you think that ethereum won’t move to PoS soon? (I haven’t looked into the design, can’t comment on whether the construction seems sound to me)
Ethereum has been moving to PoS soon for a couple years.
It's still the intent, but PoS is effectively still unsolved. It's not just "can it decide blocks", it needs to have the right balance of incentives to be self-sustaining, or it destroys itself.
Re: P2P Matrix
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think that ethereum won’t move to PoS soon? (I haven’t looked into the design, can’t comment on whether the construction seems sound to me)
Ethereum has been moving to PoS soon for a couple years. It's still the intent , but PoS is effectively still unsolved. It's not just "can it decide blocks", it needs to have the right balance of incentives to be self-sustaining, or it destroys itself.
What makes you say that PoS is "unsolved " ? Did you hear about Cosmos for example ? Their mainnet is running for more than one year without any issue.
Re: P2P Matrix
#178I've been following for a while, i like the comment that are exploring various options including yggdrasil and DAT/hypercore, perhaps a silly question, excuse my absolute ignorance, any value in looking at GNUnet? (I'm sure it has already been done)