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Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

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Again? I love Germany, but I honestly can't tell whether this is an old news brought back to life, or whether it's a new story at a glance. Deja vu anyone?

I believe the root issue here is that Germany has more than one city.

Both times were Munich though.

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

#52

Again? I love Germany, but I honestly can't tell whether this is an old news brought back to life, or whether it's a new story at a glance. Deja vu anyone?

Slashdot, 2001: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/01/10/16/1525231/german-par... And 2006: https://slashdot.org/story/06/10/28/226211/munich-migrating-...

Ahh... I thought this was the first ever instance.

So Munich goes open source -> Hamburg gets inspired

and BAM - 14 years later it follows suit.

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Seems unreasonable to expect that every city can manage their own secure data store...

my small city wastes money on much less useful stuff... like fireworks and such

That is not a strict priority list. It is not unheard of to burn some money on celebrations and decorations, while cutting budgets in the essentials.

The appropriate question to ask is: at which size can you afford a competent security team in-house for what you would pay for a secure cloud offering. I would actually love to know the answer to that question.

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

#56
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many countries are currently ditching Windows in favor of home grown distros due to distrust of Microsoft. Notable examples: Currently transitioning: - Astra Linux (Russia) https://www.zdnet.com/article/russian-military-moves-closer-... - Kylin Linux? (China) https://www.techradar.com/news/china-to-ditch-all-windows-pc... - South Korea https://www.zdnet.com/article/south-koreas-government-explor... Already transition…

Is there really a need for them to create their own distributions?

Yes. Is not as easy you chose your location and language and done. I remember me having to download,install and configure stuff to get spellchecking working in Firefox and Open Office. Also 10 years back to connect to internet I had to use a PPP application, this was not included by default in Ubuntu but the localized spin included this, the spellcheckingt stuff and other stuff.

Also if your country does not need to follow the laws about the codecs you can include them and not have your users have to install them.

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

#57

Much more important: Schools are moving to Office 365 in a rush in face of Covid-19. There are data protection concerns but a crisis can shift priorities so it seems.

Right now we need an opensource teleconferencing system much more than an opensource OS. Edit: I think people recommending jitsi below misunderstood my comment

What did they not get about your comment ?

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

#59
post #43

Windows, Office and Win Server (AD) make a combo that is quite difficult to replace. But if these cities are smart, they would pool their resources together to fund common tools. All the bits and pieces are already here. What is needed is a solid package that can be deployed and maintained easily, with user friendly GUI.

Can you explain the difference with openldap ? I have never used AD, and I am satisfied by openldap, I mean once I understood how to configure it...

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

#60
post #43

Windows, Office and Win Server (AD) make a combo that is quite difficult to replace. But if these cities are smart, they would pool their resources together to fund common tools. All the bits and pieces are already here. What is needed is a solid package that can be deployed and maintained easily, with user friendly GUI.

... throw universities and schools into the pool also and you might finally get something which 'just works'.

Difficult question: how do you make people in power agree on a solution? Not even universities managed so far to standardize their IT infra.

Germany is a country where one city orders would new trains which would eventually crash into the next city's platform due to different platform dimensions [0]...

[0] https://rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/duesseldorf/duesseldorfer-r...

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