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Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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The due diligence is because the restaurants offer a terrible experience. Most still do not have an independent online ordering function. They want me to call. Most still haven't set up meaningful profiles on Yelp and other review sites. So I would need to root around to find contact information. That is in addition to needing to give my credit card over the phone, not knowing how long the order will take, and needin…

I've had a pretty great experience calling restaurants to place orders. I talk to a human, tell them my order, they repeat it back to me, and tell me it will be X dollars and ready at Y o'clock. I show up at the specified time and the order is ready to go. A couple times I had to wait 5 minutes because they were inundated and couldn't keep up. No stupid app to download. No account to create. No bullshit fees. No mark…

My experience on the phone differs from yours. My customizations (low salt diet or other health requirements) are ignored or done incorrectly or misunderstood due to my accent or just background noise; I have to repeat the credit card twice since it was mis-keyed; I can't save my favorites as different people pick up the phone, so starting from scratch each time. And when I pick up my order, I discover only too late what's missing and have to decipher a scrawled notepad stapled to a bag to see if it was even listed.

I agree, onboarding on these apps is miserable. But the benefits of a digital order, when done correctly, can really be better for some consumer cases than the voice call.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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It's disheartening that there's so much due diligence required just to conduct the most basic transactions right now. I have a narrow list of vetted restaurants, where I understand the costs and to the business, the delivery model, the safety (food handling and Covid precautions), and I only take out from these particular places. I tried a new place recently, only to find out I had been duped by Grub-hub, even though…

The due diligence is because the restaurants offer a terrible experience. Most still do not have an independent online ordering function. They want me to call. Most still haven't set up meaningful profiles on Yelp and other review sites. So I would need to root around to find contact information. That is in addition to needing to give my credit card over the phone, not knowing how long the order will take, and needin…

Wow, did the restaurant owners not show up to UX class when they were at Stanford? How are they going to scale their MVP into an IPO at this rate??

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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The due diligence is because the restaurants offer a terrible experience. Most still do not have an independent online ordering function. They want me to call. Most still haven't set up meaningful profiles on Yelp and other review sites. So I would need to root around to find contact information. That is in addition to needing to give my credit card over the phone, not knowing how long the order will take, and needin…

I've had a pretty great experience calling restaurants to place orders. I talk to a human, tell them my order, they repeat it back to me, and tell me it will be X dollars and ready at Y o'clock. I show up at the specified time and the order is ready to go. A couple times I had to wait 5 minutes because they were inundated and couldn't keep up. No stupid app to download. No account to create. No bullshit fees. No mark…

Unfortunately phones are pretty difficult for me personally. I'm somewhat hard of hearing, meaning that I can't necessarily understand the other side of a phone call. I've also recently moved to an area much more diverse than my hometown. While this is great and I'm meaning people from all walks of life, it also means that there are suddenly a lot more accents that I'm not used to hearing and having trouble understanding and communicating with. Ordering on the phone has not been a great experience for me...

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The due diligence is because the restaurants offer a terrible experience. Most still do not have an independent online ordering function. They want me to call. Most still haven't set up meaningful profiles on Yelp and other review sites. So I would need to root around to find contact information. That is in addition to needing to give my credit card over the phone, not knowing how long the order will take, and needin…

I've had a pretty great experience calling restaurants to place orders. I talk to a human, tell them my order, they repeat it back to me, and tell me it will be X dollars and ready at Y o'clock. I show up at the specified time and the order is ready to go. A couple times I had to wait 5 minutes because they were inundated and couldn't keep up. No stupid app to download. No account to create. No bullshit fees. No mark…

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Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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The due diligence is because the restaurants offer a terrible experience. Most still do not have an independent online ordering function. They want me to call. Most still haven't set up meaningful profiles on Yelp and other review sites. So I would need to root around to find contact information. That is in addition to needing to give my credit card over the phone, not knowing how long the order will take, and needin…

I think there are two different things here. I do notice in my area (Paris, France) that many small restaurants hardly have an online presence. I understand some people don't like calling up restaurants to order (I sometimes am one of those people). Indeed, in such cases, having some sort of external service aggregating information and maybe even exposing some sort of common ordering platform would be great. However,…

> I do notice in my area (Paris, France) that many small restaurants hardly have an online presence. I understand some people don't like calling up restaurants to order

and some restaurants are quite happy with their current customer base, and don't see the need to market themselves.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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An hour ago I tried to order sushi. It was a larger order, several adults and Grubhub tacked on $38 in fees (not including a tip) for $120 of food. The place was 11 minutes away - I live in US southeast with a car and ample parking. They are crazy if they think I'm paying that, I'd rather eat a sandwich.

> They are crazy if they think I'm paying that I mean you’re already buying a hundred dollars of sushi... doesn’t seem to crazy to guess you can afford a big fee.

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Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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post #65

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An hour ago I tried to order sushi. It was a larger order, several adults and Grubhub tacked on $38 in fees (not including a tip) for $120 of food. The place was 11 minutes away - I live in US southeast with a car and ample parking. They are crazy if they think I'm paying that, I'd rather eat a sandwich.

> They are crazy if they think I'm paying that I mean you’re already buying a hundred dollars of sushi... doesn’t seem to crazy to guess you can afford a big fee.

When I was 16, I was a handyman/servant for a tech billionaire. He drove a used minivan and once got in a fight with Walmart over a $1.50 package of glitter that was slightly leaky. The amount of money was not even close to worth his time, yet he did stuff like that all the time. This is not uncommon behavior.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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Don't most people use Google Maps to find nearby restaurants? Does Google Maps ever give the wrong phone number to order from?

I know using the phone is kinda 1900s but sometimes I like to ask about a certain dish I'm trying and stuff. Sometimes the person talking to me is a bit gruff but I tell myself it's OK because at least I'm not giving any money to the delivery companies.

I hope it goes without saying that I always pick up. Any excuse to get out of the house, especially on a work day!

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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post #217

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> They are crazy if they think I'm paying that I mean you’re already buying a hundred dollars of sushi... doesn’t seem to crazy to guess you can afford a big fee.

When I was 16, I was a handyman/servant for a tech billionaire. He drove a used minivan and once got in a fight with Walmart over a $1.50 package of glitter that was slightly leaky. The amount of money was not even close to worth his time, yet he did stuff like that all the time. This is not uncommon behavior.

Exactly - it's not about the money, it's about being taken advantage of.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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Why don't the restaurants just dramatically inflate their prices to accomodate the Grubhub fee? I don't understand why it would be better to contact the restaurant directly for the restaurant -- they benefit from Grubhub too, and if they don't want to pay the cost they should just pass it on to the customers.

The restaurants have voluntarily entered into this arrangement. If they can't afford to operate with the fees on top of their regular prices, then they have to increase their prices.

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