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Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by stevewodil »

fluffything wrote: post #61

I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga that claims to be certified by both Lenovo and Canonical for Ubuntu. Finger print sensor doesn't work, the fans are super loud all the time, audio doesn't work (requires a newer Linux kernel than the one shipped in the latest Ubuntu), EFI problems, sleep, hibernate, fast-boot, restore from hibernate problems, battery life on Linux is horrible... So at least the certification for Ubuntu i…

In the certification it states testing was done on kernel version 5.0.0-1015-oem-osp1.

Are you using that kernel version? If not, use Ukuu or some other method and install it

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by dahfizz »

jhoechtl wrote: post #87
dahfizz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a new X1 Carbon 7th gen, and it was definitely a lot of work to get it set up. But after tinkering and some kernel updates (Fedora >> Ubuntu for new hardware) I couldn't be happier. Incredible performance, all day battery life, etc. I have a friend who got their finger print sensor working but I never bothered to try. I also have had great experience with fwup. I've gotten tons of bios, firmware, microcode etc…

I have a Lenovo Yoga 720-13ikb. Firmware updates are distributed as Windows Executables only. It's the first time that I have heard of fwup. Will fwup help me to install Firmware (Bios/UEFI) Updates? It's the only reason I have not yet wiped Windows. All hardware worked except the fingerprint reader I do not care for anyway.

I do not know about your specific machine, but Lenovo is pretty good about supporting fwupd, so its worth a try. Install fwupd for your distro and run `fwupdmgr get-devices` to see what on your machine is supported. When I run that, I see System Firmware, thunderbolt controller, UEFI firmware, touchpad, etc etc listed.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by Jonnax »

bluedino wrote: post #68
Jonnax wrote: post #23

Got a ThinkPad T450 in my cupboard running Ubuntu as a home server. Everything works perfectly. I'd argue that thinkpads aren't stylish, but they're bricks that work well.

Are you using the touchpad, wifi, fingerprint scanner, bluetooth, graphics in your cupboard?

Lol, you don't need to be so combative.

It used to be my daily driver laptop.

And yes.

The touchpad, wifi, bluetooth and the GPU (intel) works perfectly.

And the laptop doesn't have fingerprint sensor.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by sovietmudkipz »

I would love first class hardware for Linux, specifically Ubuntu. This may just be a feeling, but too often do I feel like there is additional configuration that has to occur to get Ubuntu working on a repurposed laptop. There also seems to be a trade off of battery life — the same hardware platform lasts 4-6 hours running Ubuntu and 10-12 running windows. I know I can further configure the OS to get similar performance but therein lies the desire.

I get a great consumer experience when I purchase a MacBook or (some) windows laptops and I don’t have to worry about that configuration step.

It’s about time Ubuntu and other Linux distos are able to offer that same “ready to use” experience that I’m describing.

P.S. That said, it is worth pointing out that executing that configuration step is highly educational and, sometimes, pretty fun.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by paines »

mpfundstein wrote: post #26
paines wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dirty hack, like bumblebee? Well since driver 440.44 this kind of thing is incooperated into the nvidia driver itself. You can use it on demand. It idles at around 1w and is used for some physics and other decoding capabilities if i recall correctly. If you want to run a game or an app using nvidia you prepend it with an environment variable, otherwise intel gfx is used. It's not dirty, and works quite well imho... T…

when was 440.44 released? i tried 1 month ago to get this running with ubuntu20 and failed hard :-(

The thing I talked about already worked perfectly fine since 19.10 and with hacks even in 18.04. 20.04 is now on 440.82.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by Delk »

stevewodil wrote: post #91
fluffything wrote: post #61

I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga that claims to be certified by both Lenovo and Canonical for Ubuntu. Finger print sensor doesn't work, the fans are super loud all the time, audio doesn't work (requires a newer Linux kernel than the one shipped in the latest Ubuntu), EFI problems, sleep, hibernate, fast-boot, restore from hibernate problems, battery life on Linux is horrible... So at least the certification for Ubuntu i…

In the certification it states testing was done on kernel version 5.0.0-1015-oem-osp1. Are you using that kernel version? If not, use Ukuu or some other method and install it

To be fair, if hardware really only worked with a specific version of the Linux kernel, that wouldn't exactly scream quality either. You'd be stuck without being able to update for security or for any new hardware support.

As a troubleshooting step, trying with the specific kernel version that was used for the certification might of course work.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by donedealomg »

exceptione wrote: post #55

From a quick pass I don't see any mention about the docking stations. I would rather have them start working on the docking station capabilities. Right now my dock doesn't understand how to provide display port capabilities to linux. It is a very expensive USB-hub at this moment when I boot linux.

I have the same problem I have a P1 2nd Gen with Docking station and when I connect it to Linux 5.x kernels the screen setup keeps crashing. When I disconnect the monitor on the docking station it's stable.

Let's just hope 2021 is the year of the linux desktop /s

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by donedealomg »

Legogris wrote: post #83
exceptione wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Updating the firmware changed nothing. On the product page I don't see linux compatibility even mentioned.

That's unfortunate. FWIW I'm using both an old-style dock (ye olde bottom connector) and the Thunderbolt 3 Dock with a T470s and a T480s with Arch and NixOS. Displayport and HDMI both working fine after first doing the latest updates using fwupd and then running additional updates for laptop/controller/dock from Windows (first step probably redundant). If it's the Thunderbolt 3 Dock, it can be worth checking that you…

What's the use of a docking station if you have to use 2 power supplies

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by paines »

nymiro wrote: post #63
paines wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dirty hack, like bumblebee? Well since driver 440.44 this kind of thing is incooperated into the nvidia driver itself. You can use it on demand. It idles at around 1w and is used for some physics and other decoding capabilities if i recall correctly. If you want to run a game or an app using nvidia you prepend it with an environment variable, otherwise intel gfx is used. It's not dirty, and works quite well imho... T…

I would be interested to know which gnome extension in particular are you referring to :)

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2203/gnome-run-with-p...

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Post by pentium166 »

jopsen wrote: post #86
JoachimSchipper wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but note that the P1 workstations are pretty much the same as the X1 Extreme series (but with Nvidia's Quadro "workstation" GPUs rather than Nvidia's "customer" GPUs.)

All the X1's I've seen come with Intel Integrated Graphics. nvidia have always been a hassle to use.

It looks like the customizable variant of the P1 Gen 2 has different GPU options (including iGPU-only) based on what processor you choose, while the X1 Extreme Gen 2 has a Geforce 1650 in all configurations.

If I had known that when I was picking out an X1 for work, I would have pushed a P1 with no dedicated GPU instead.

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