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Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#11

Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

steviedotboston wrote: post #10
henvic wrote: post #5

How unfortunate it's not going to production. It probably would be a great Tesla contender at some point!

yeah, it would be great to have a company making cool electric cars that isn't run by a complete twat

What makes you think that James Dyson does not fit that description?

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#12

Post by iso1631 »

steviedotboston wrote: post #10
henvic wrote: post #5

How unfortunate it's not going to production. It probably would be a great Tesla contender at some point!

yeah, it would be great to have a company making cool electric cars that isn't run by a complete twat

Dyson isn't going forward, so we don't have to worry about that

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

objclxt wrote: post #8

> Electric cars are considerably more expensive to make and manufacturers are making big losses on the sale of each car. This is rather disingenuous. The Model 3 was one of the most popular new cars sold in the UK last year, Tesla isn’t losing money on those sales. You can’t do a market analysis that ignores the main competitor. If I had to hazard a guess, the real reason James Dyson pulled the plug is a) EV developm…

Agreed, a couple of billion will give you a nice EV design but a car is a hugely more complex and expensive product to manufacture at scale at a competitive price than a fan or cleaner.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#16

Post by mack1001 »

The only way to be successful with EVs is to have substantial scale and that scale needs 10’s of billions of dollars, which means public markets or huge private rounds which also means dilution. Many things that are probably unpalatable to Mr.Dyson.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#17

Post by mikekchar »

objclxt wrote: post #8

> Electric cars are considerably more expensive to make and manufacturers are making big losses on the sale of each car. This is rather disingenuous. The Model 3 was one of the most popular new cars sold in the UK last year, Tesla isn’t losing money on those sales. You can’t do a market analysis that ignores the main competitor. If I had to hazard a guess, the real reason James Dyson pulled the plug is a) EV developm…

I agree that the comment is disingenuous, however, I believe the problem for Dyson was that the car he wanted to make was just too expensive. It's not necessarily the case that all electric vehicles are too expensive (and clearly when you look at the EVs in SE Asia, there are some pretty cheap cars). I'd be surprised if he didn't already anticipate the upfront costs. I think it's more that having made the prototype, he realised he couldn't make a product that will disrupt the market at a reasonable price and therefore threw in the towel.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

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Post by IshKebab »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #11
steviedotboston wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, it would be great to have a company making cool electric cars that isn't run by a complete twat

What makes you think that James Dyson does not fit that description?

Well he's never called someone a pedo on Twitter at least.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

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Post by ykevinator »

objclxt wrote: post #8

> Electric cars are considerably more expensive to make and manufacturers are making big losses on the sale of each car. This is rather disingenuous. The Model 3 was one of the most popular new cars sold in the UK last year, Tesla isn’t losing money on those sales. You can’t do a market analysis that ignores the main competitor. If I had to hazard a guess, the real reason James Dyson pulled the plug is a) EV developm…

Fully laden cost, cancer treatment etc, its cheaper but consumers and governments don't think like that. We will continue to treat cancer with socialism and car exhaust with capitalism but some day I hope they converge.
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