Didn't Ubuntu/redhat certify some thinkpads in the past?
Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
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Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#12This is great news. Honestly I've never had a problem with Ubuntu on machines that are just a 1-year or older. There are so many i7 laptops in the secondary market that work perfectly.
Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering for me in Ubuntu, and I've been using Linux for 15 years. Just last week I updated my working Nvidia drivers for my RTX 2070 card via Ubuntus GUI and lo and behold after restart the screen is just black. It's at a point where I just want it to get a working system and never update it, security and performance be damned. I know how to fix it…
My approach to Linux laptops:
* Buy Lenovo
* Have integrated graphics (i.e. Intel)
* Run Fedora
This combination has, for a few years now, given me excellent reliability 'out of the box'. I don't have to do anything and everything from the fingerprint scanner to the wifi Just Works. There's still a bit of a battery life penalty compared to Windows, but it's not enormous.
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#13This is great news. Honestly I've never had a problem with Ubuntu on machines that are just a 1-year or older. There are so many i7 laptops in the secondary market that work perfectly.
Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering for me in Ubuntu, and I've been using Linux for 15 years. Just last week I updated my working Nvidia drivers for my RTX 2070 card via Ubuntus GUI and lo and behold after restart the screen is just black. It's at a point where I just want it to get a working system and never update it, security and performance be damned. I know how to fix it…
Thanks Nvidia. There is little Linux can do with out sacrificing a lot (principles and technical).
It's a pita, _hopefully_ one day AMD and ROCm will be a viable alternative.
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#14Is Nvidia Optimus going to work or will it still require a dirty hack? Will you have to choose between decent battery life and the ability to use an external monitor? I bought an X1 Extreme and even with Pop!_OS it is incredibly annoying.
Dirty hack, like bumblebee? Well since driver 440.44 this kind of thing is incooperated into the nvidia driver itself. You can use it on demand. It idles at around 1w and is used for some physics and other decoding capabilities if i recall correctly. If you want to run a game or an app using nvidia you prepend it with an environment variable, otherwise intel gfx is used. It's not dirty, and works quite well imho... To make it more convenient:there are even extensions for gnome to say use nvidia with this and that app... Sure, to have the nvidia card kick in triggered by the OS somehow when really needed would be the non-plus ultra, but come on, this is science fiction :D
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering for me in Ubuntu, and I've been using Linux for 15 years. Just last week I updated my working Nvidia drivers for my RTX 2070 card via Ubuntus GUI and lo and behold after restart the screen is just black. It's at a point where I just want it to get a working system and never update it, security and performance be damned. I know how to fix it…
> Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering > my RTX 2070 I still do not understand, why you folks with Nvidia hardware expect it to work out of the box in Linux, when there have been two decades of experience that Nvidia doesn't care about that and won't allow anyone to do anything with that. So no, your RTX won't work as nice OOTB as Intel and AMD GPUs do. It will continue to be t…
Unfortunately AMD doesn't really compete in the machine learning space. Hopefully one day ROCm will offer a viable alternative but until then we are pretty much captive.
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess it’s all about choice of hardware now. If you use components designed to support Linux life will be pretty smooth. I’m sure someone will point out the nvidia has a reputation for being linux hostile which does limit your choice a bit. Currently running Fedora on an XPS13 Dev edition laptop. Wayland, Gnome and Firefox are working together very nicely. Mixed HiDPI with standard seems to be solved now. I’ve seen…
Has Wayland figured out how to allow users to take screenshots? I would like to switch to Linux/Wayland from my mac but I need to share screenshots with co-workers.
I've been using the Plasma Wayland session for quite some time now and screenshots have been working fine basically from the start and some time ago screensharing with pipewire got implemented. Chromium and krfb support that, so both WebRTC and VNC work as expected.
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#17This is great news. Honestly I've never had a problem with Ubuntu on machines that are just a 1-year or older. There are so many i7 laptops in the secondary market that work perfectly.
Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering for me in Ubuntu, and I've been using Linux for 15 years. Just last week I updated my working Nvidia drivers for my RTX 2070 card via Ubuntus GUI and lo and behold after restart the screen is just black. It's at a point where I just want it to get a working system and never update it, security and performance be damned. I know how to fix it…
About your driver upgrade? Did you installed a driver PPA and installed some driver that was not guaranteed to work or it was a Ubuntu bug, you did your regular updates (no PPA) and it broke your system?
I also had this issues because I wanted to try newer drivers, it is expected if the new driver does not work I go in terminal and install the previous working version. I personally prefer how easy is to test different driver version in Linux while in Windows I needed to make an account to upgrade my NVIDIA drivers(maybe you can avoid creating an account I am not 100% sure but at that time I was dual booting to play some game and I did not had a weekend to spend o how to upgrade my drivers without an account ... in the end I could not solve the issue where Oblivion had a black screen and I played it with Wine in Linux)
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#18This is great news. Honestly I've never had a problem with Ubuntu on machines that are just a 1-year or older. There are so many i7 laptops in the secondary market that work perfectly.
Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering for me in Ubuntu, and I've been using Linux for 15 years. Just last week I updated my working Nvidia drivers for my RTX 2070 card via Ubuntus GUI and lo and behold after restart the screen is just black. It's at a point where I just want it to get a working system and never update it, security and performance be damned. I know how to fix it…
"Gentoo was the most reliant by a long shot (maybe for the simple reason it always asked if it should replace my config), but that is a time sink in whole other league."
I think I can see Arch showing off a bit of ankle at you. Think of Arch as a bit like Gentoo without the burning lap.
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Graphics drivers and WiFi drivers never worked without significant pampering > my RTX 2070 I still do not understand, why you folks with Nvidia hardware expect it to work out of the box in Linux, when there have been two decades of experience that Nvidia doesn't care about that and won't allow anyone to do anything with that. So no, your RTX won't work as nice OOTB as Intel and AMD GPUs do. It will continue to be t…
Unfortunately AMD doesn't really compete in the machine learning space. Hopefully one day ROCm will offer a viable alternative but until then we are pretty much captive.
If you really need nvidia so badly, put that GPU into headless machine, where you don't need any UI.
Otherwise, you will be frustrated on desktop and it still won't work out of the box.
Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess it’s all about choice of hardware now. If you use components designed to support Linux life will be pretty smooth. I’m sure someone will point out the nvidia has a reputation for being linux hostile which does limit your choice a bit. Currently running Fedora on an XPS13 Dev edition laptop. Wayland, Gnome and Firefox are working together very nicely. Mixed HiDPI with standard seems to be solved now. I’ve seen…
Has Wayland figured out how to allow users to take screenshots? I would like to switch to Linux/Wayland from my mac but I need to share screenshots with co-workers.
You can take screenshots under Wayland, you just can not use random X11 tool that you were used to.
All Wayland compositors come with some tool, that can take screenshots.