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The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Summary of all European (EU+) apps initiatives: https://github.com/ct-report/summary

Maybe a bit of a weird question, but does anyone know why there isn't just a single EU-wide effort? Or is it just politics as usual?

It does kinda make sense this way, because national healthcare providers are integral to operations.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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It's not under an open source license, though. Any idea why?

Because lawyers and a secretive, untrusting government. Interestingly, much of the code is forked from Singapore's OpenTrace initiative, which is GPL3, so Australia's app is most likely a copyright violation. Whether anyone will take action is another story.

As far as I'm aware, the Australian government got permission from Singapore to make the fork in that way, so as long Singapore didn't accept external contributions (or if they did, under a contributor's agreement) then they're in the clear. GPL doesn't automatically make it impossible to copy code under other licenses. You can license code out in multiple ways. GPL is just the default license that can be used without explicit permission.

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I do know why. The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of thousands, merely a statistic. Edited to delete reaching too far

If it had been a totally innocent man, ok, but Mr. Floyd had prior convictions of selling cocaine, robbery and assault. Yes, it is wrong that a police "executes" a serial criminal on the street, without trial. But is it worth starting riots all over the world for this guy in particular?

Don’t know where you got ‘riots all over the world’ from, Mr Throwaway? And you seem to be saying that ‘prior convictions’ excuse this appalling act? Again - for shame.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Because lawyers and a secretive, untrusting government. Interestingly, much of the code is forked from Singapore's OpenTrace initiative, which is GPL3, so Australia's app is most likely a copyright violation. Whether anyone will take action is another story.

As far as I'm aware, the Australian government got permission from Singapore to make the fork in that way, so as long Singapore didn't accept external contributions (or if they did, under a contributor's agreement) then they're in the clear. GPL doesn't automatically make it impossible to copy code under other licenses. You can license code out in multiple ways. GPL is just the default license that can be used withou…

Thanks for the info, though I would have imagined that the government, which already has a trust deficit, might have mentioned this somewhere.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Some other countries recently took same path, relevant discussion here : 1) Singapore : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22702701 2) India : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23311298 3) Germany : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23376682 ( no discussion, link to repository ) 4) France : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23321137

Japan: An open source community built a contact tracing app but the government doesn't adopt the app and building different app. I expect the app won't be open sourced.

https://github.com/mamori-i-japan/mamori-i-japan-ios

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Australia’s code is also open source. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe

It's not under an open source license, though. Any idea why?

The concept of open source is so horrible to them that it already pains them to just show the source publicly.

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As far as I'm aware, the Australian government got permission from Singapore to make the fork in that way, so as long Singapore didn't accept external contributions (or if they did, under a contributor's agreement) then they're in the clear. GPL doesn't automatically make it impossible to copy code under other licenses. You can license code out in multiple ways. GPL is just the default license that can be used withou…

Thanks for the info, though I would have imagined that the government, which already has a trust deficit, might have mentioned this somewhere.

I feel like they did, but a quick Google can't turn it up - strange. But I agree they could have been more clear about it. Just one of many issues with how they've handled this situation.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it had been a totally innocent man, ok, but Mr. Floyd had prior convictions of selling cocaine, robbery and assault. Yes, it is wrong that a police "executes" a serial criminal on the street, without trial. But is it worth starting riots all over the world for this guy in particular?

Don’t know where you got ‘riots all over the world’ from, Mr Throwaway? And you seem to be saying that ‘prior convictions’ excuse this appalling act? Again - for shame.

> And you seem to be saying that ‘prior convictions’ excuse this appalling act

No, I just said that what the police did is wrong. But I don't understand why you (or rather the poster I was replying to) think that his death is a tragedy? From a 10,000 foot view it is a win for society that he is now gone. A serial criminal that was still committing crimes. "Floyd entered a woman’s home, pointed a gun at her stomach and searched the home for drugs and money, according to court records".

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