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The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by raziel2p »

stormdennis wrote: post #33
raziel2p wrote: post #17

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how is it bizarre? people naturally want to show solidarity with the cause in the US, it's a massive deal for the whole western world.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in Europe from a virus and these people are breaking the rules to stop its further spread because of one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

many people (myself included) don't think of it as an incident, but murder - which is just another case of long-running systemic racism and police brutality in the US.

Europe is doing much much better than the US in terms of dealing with the virus, so it's actually not unreasonable to say that it might be a risk worth taking.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by marcell »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #3

Honestly Covid tracing seems fairly moot at this point. With tens of thousands of people marching in the streets every night, aren’t we all basically exposed if we’re part of any network?

You are completely right. The idea of contact tracing a virus that registers as a mild cold for most people is a pipe dream.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by stormdennis »

raziel2p wrote: post #61
stormdennis wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in Europe from a virus and these people are breaking the rules to stop its further spread because of one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

many people (myself included) don't think of it as an incident, but murder - which is just another case of long-running systemic racism and police brutality in the US. Europe is doing much much better than the US in terms of dealing with the virus, so it's actually not unreasonable to say that it might be a risk worth taking.

Is Europe doing much better? I don't think so. Anyway who are you to decide it's ok to risk more dying so you can protest? That policeman made a similar judgement, I don't think he expected the man to die but he was prepared to risk it.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by askvictor »

giovannibajo1 wrote: post #13
evolve2k wrote: post #12

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Australia’s code is also open source. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe

It's not under an open source license, though. Any idea why?

Because lawyers and a secretive, untrusting government.

Interestingly, much of the code is forked from Singapore's OpenTrace initiative, which is GPL3, so Australia's app is most likely a copyright violation. Whether anyone will take action is another story.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by nosh »

bwblabs wrote: post #59

Summary of all European (EU+) apps initiatives: https://github.com/ct-report/summary

This is a great resource. I’ve also started collecting information on all contact tracing apps being released worldwide. This is at https://cov19tech.org - to share as an open resource. The source code for the site is on GitHub and the content is all CC licensed. If anyone would like to help, please get in touch

Edit: I submitted Cov19Tech as a Show HN earlier today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23395475

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by rootusrootus »

Nas808 wrote: post #50
rootusrootus wrote: post #39

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The API is supposed to be available once 13.5 goes live (and it is available in public beta now, I believe). Here is a list of states who are participating with compatible apps: https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/21/covid-19-exposure-notificatio... TL;DR: Hardly any. Edit: Whoops, I am out of date, I thought 13.5 was not out yet! Apparently it is, and then some.

13.5 went live on May 20. They just released 13.5.1 yesterday to patch the unc0ver jailbreak. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211214

Ah my bad, thanks for the correction. I'm still at 13.4 and I haven't been overtly refusing upgrade notifications, so I thought it hadn't been released yet.

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Post by throwaway-gf »

stormdennis wrote: post #48
stuartd wrote: post #41

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8,000 miles away, give or take, and not Europe. And you don’t know why? For shame. https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1267327498339127298?...

I do know why. The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of thousands, merely a statistic. Edited to delete reaching too far

If it had been a totally innocent man, ok, but Mr. Floyd had prior convictions of selling cocaine, robbery and assault. Yes, it is wrong that a police "executes" a serial criminal on the street, without trial. But is it worth starting riots all over the world for this guy in particular?

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Post by contravariant »

bwblabs wrote: post #59

Summary of all European (EU+) apps initiatives: https://github.com/ct-report/summary

Maybe a bit of a weird question, but does anyone know why there isn't just a single EU-wide effort? Or is it just politics as usual?

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Post by detaro »

throwaway-gf wrote: post #67
stormdennis wrote: post #48

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I do know why. The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of thousands, merely a statistic. Edited to delete reaching too far

If it had been a totally innocent man, ok, but Mr. Floyd had prior convictions of selling cocaine, robbery and assault. Yes, it is wrong that a police "executes" a serial criminal on the street, without trial. But is it worth starting riots all over the world for this guy in particular?

It's not "for this guy in particular". Merely the straw the broke the camel's back.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by halfbaked99 »

gowld wrote: post #60
usrusr wrote: post #58

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Not just unrestricted usage, exclusive unrestricted usage, which is why it could be a problem (instead of just being a simple case of dual licencing) if the contract claims rights to off-hours work. German law has a clear distinction between authorship rights and usage rights. Usage rights, including reproduction, can be sold, rented, perhaps even taken illegally at gunpoint, I don't know. It's just your run off the…

What does it mean to inherit authorship? Can I be th author of something my grandmother created? Can I bequeath my athorship to some corporation?

I was wondering this as well, I did some digging. It's really interesting actually, it doesn't seem that Germany is that much of a veteran when it comes to copyright (In the early 1900's they virtually didn't have any copyright law in place).

To your question, yes you can inherit something from your grandmother. Inheritance is designated by the original author, and enacted in the event of their death (As far as I can tell).

Source: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_urhg/englisch_ur... (Section 28)

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