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Re: Leave Facebook

#81
Zuckerberg hires police officers cited for using excessive force to work as his personal bodyguards.

Yes, that's right. While he's busy pretending to feel bad about the situation with bad cops, he recruits and pays them to protect his family.

Facebook and Zuckerberg are well beyond complicit.

Re: Leave Facebook

#82
post #2

People want to leave but stay for the network. How can we leave and take the network with us?' Edit: I actually didn't have "friends" in mind. Small businesses, formal and informal groups of interest, event discovery, the use cases are far beyond what I'm aware of. Also, organizing and protests...

I've been toying with removing all of my content, unfriending the vast majority of acquaintances and unfollowing family who post garbage. Then don't feed the zuck machine by posting, liking memes, or regular checking. Disable all notifications from communities. Basically try to keep to "business and meaningful contact only" rather than engage with the time-sinks. Make it work for me. (The Intention firefox extension…

I went through that process a year ago. It was a good amount of work. When I was done, I realized I wasn't getting anything out of Facebook and deleted.

Re: Leave Facebook

#83

Zuckerberg hires police officers cited for using excessive force to work as his personal bodyguards. Yes, that's right. While he's busy pretending to feel bad about the situation with bad cops, he recruits and pays them to protect his family. Facebook and Zuckerberg are well beyond complicit.

He is complicit for wanting that he be not lynched by a mob?

If anything the virulent comments on this thread are enough reason for him to hire as many bodyguards as he may need.

Some people here have no sense of perspective.

Re: Leave Facebook

#84
I deactivated my Facebook, Messenger, WhatsApp, and Instagram accounts yesterday, and let me tell you, it's worth doing it just for the feeling of deleting these apps from your phone. So far I do not miss any of them at all. In a week or two I'll log back in and delete them forever. For now I'm trying to campaign some of my friends to get on Signal.

Re: Leave Facebook

#85

Is there a significant amount of Facebook employees that are actually planning on leaving? From my experience money talks. Many people will use the logic of "if not me it will be someone else" for their cognitive dissonance to work at morally degenerate organizations. I'd be interested if there was a survey of current employees who would be willing to leave if another entity paid an analogous salary.

I don't know of a "significant amount" of employees, but my LinkedIn feed this morning had two engineers post that they had left. But also had one guy say that he had just joined. Take that for what it's worth.

Re: Leave Facebook

#86

I am not on FB and I tried to get out of WhatsApp too. I deleted WhatsApp and implored all my friends to move to Signal. But out of the 100 or so people I reached, only 2 moved to Signal. My extended family is in India and WhatsApp is very entrenched there. The other issue is that people in India do not realize that the attention issue these apps create is a long term problem - at least not yet.

Yes this is a huge problem. After several years of shunning Facebook I installed WhatsApp last year because it’s the only way to stay in contact with much of my family these days.

Re: Leave Facebook

#87
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. There were millions of people socializing on many different platforms for years before anything like Facebook was created.

Millions, yes. Billions, no.

I seriously doubt there are people out there with billions of people on their contact lists, so why would that matter?

Re: Leave Facebook

#88
What is keeping many people on Facebook is FOMO. Every person who quits and leaves, especially publicly, reduces the chance that those remaining will miss something important and the perception that it is an important source of news and information. Let it become a ghost town of bots.

Re: Leave Facebook

#89
post #29

Please Please Please offer some GOOD alternatives to Facebook. Now is the time to come together and replace Facebook with a free decentralised alternative. If you want to switch away from other surveillance capitalist software like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or WhatsApp here's a list [0] [0] https://switching.software/

Decentralization is usually pitched as a solution to "censorship". In this case, the complaint seems to be the reverse, that there was insufficient intervention against misinformation. So I'm not sure how decentralization applies here.

I think that's a really good point to bring up. Decentralization solves some problems but it doesn't automatically make everything better.

An interesting example relevant to this case would be Mastodon: it's an alternative to Twitter where many instances federate together, and instances are allowed to do their own moderation. Many instances have much more protective rules than Twitter and have smaller communities that their moderators are better able to integrate with.

Re: Leave Facebook

#90
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. There were millions of people socializing on many different platforms for years before anything like Facebook was created.

And not all of them combined were as successful as Facebook was at its peak.

By what metric should success be measured for a social platform?
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