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The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by stuartd »

stormdennis wrote: post #33
raziel2p wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how is it bizarre? people naturally want to show solidarity with the cause in the US, it's a massive deal for the whole western world.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in Europe from a virus and these people are breaking the rules to stop its further spread because of one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

8,000 miles away, give or take, and not Europe. And you don’t know why? For shame.

https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1267327498339127298?...

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by thomasfedb »

evolve2k wrote: post #12
evolve2k wrote: post #10

Has anyone done an analysis of the various open source government contract tracing app? I’d love to read some tear down/code review articles on what each country has released.

Australia’s code is also open source. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe

It's available online, but not open source. This is the "licence" they include: https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/blob/master/LICEN...

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by ecesena »

rootusrootus wrote: post #39
isseu wrote: post #24

What happened to the US Apple/Google app?

The API is supposed to be available once 13.5 goes live (and it is available in public beta now, I believe). Here is a list of states who are participating with compatible apps: https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/21/covid-19-exposure-notificatio... TL;DR: Hardly any. Edit: Whoops, I am out of date, I thought 13.5 was not out yet! Apparently it is, and then some.

From the link above:

> To implement its contact tracing functionality, Immuni leverages the Apple and Google Exposure Notification framework (see Apple’s documentation and Google’s documentation). This allows Immuni to overcome certain technical limitations, thus being more reliable than otherwise would be possible.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by thomasfedb »

stormdennis wrote: post #33
raziel2p wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how is it bizarre? people naturally want to show solidarity with the cause in the US, it's a massive deal for the whole western world.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in Europe from a virus and these people are breaking the rules to stop its further spread because of one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

> one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

This seems incredibly ignorant. The "incident" was a murder, in broad daylight, by a police officer.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by ecesena »

giovannibajo1 wrote: post #5

This shows the application and gives an overview of how the product works for the citizen: https://github.com/immuni-app/immuni-documentation/blob/mast... This the main technical documentation document: https://github.com/immuni-app/immuni-documentation/blob/mast... All the documentation is here: https://github.com/immuni-app/immuni-documentation

> To implement its contact tracing functionality, Immuni leverages the Apple and Google Exposure Notification framework (see Apple’s documentation [1] and Google’s documentation [2]).

[1] https://www.apple.com/covid19/contacttracing

[2] https://www.google.com/covid19/exposurenotifications/

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by toohotatopic »

stormdennis wrote: post #33
raziel2p wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how is it bizarre? people naturally want to show solidarity with the cause in the US, it's a massive deal for the whole western world.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in Europe from a virus and these people are breaking the rules to stop its further spread because of one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

It's also quite bizarre to see people dying because they are black. Actually it's so bizarre that people can't help but have to break rules to send a message.

As far as I can tell, it's not about that one 'incident' but about all the deaths that weren't recorded, and the many lives that are spent in fear.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by stormdennis »

stuartd wrote: post #41
stormdennis wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in Europe from a virus and these people are breaking the rules to stop its further spread because of one incident thousands of miles away that happened to be captured on a smartphone

8,000 miles away, give or take, and not Europe. And you don’t know why? For shame. https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1267327498339127298?...

I do know why. The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of thousands, merely a statistic. Edited to delete reaching too far

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by BjoernKW »

giovannibajo1 wrote: post #7
morsch wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3) Germany : https://github.com/corona-warn-app (no discussion to be found at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23376682 )

Looks nice! Why is "SAP" holding the copyright? In Italy, the government acquired the copyright of the app (it was donated by the company that won the tender to develop it).

Under German law copyright is non-transferrable.

However, the copyright holder can grant another party unlimited usage rights as well as waive the right to be mentioned as the actual copyright holder.

Both of these might apply here: SAP's and Deutsche Telekom's employees most likely have waived their right to be mentioned as individual copyright holders (which is a common stipulation in German employment contracts) while SAP and Deutsche Telekom have not, which is why they are mentioned as copyright holders instead of the Federal Republic of Germany.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by Nas808 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #39
isseu wrote: post #24

What happened to the US Apple/Google app?

The API is supposed to be available once 13.5 goes live (and it is available in public beta now, I believe). Here is a list of states who are participating with compatible apps: https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/21/covid-19-exposure-notificatio... TL;DR: Hardly any. Edit: Whoops, I am out of date, I thought 13.5 was not out yet! Apparently it is, and then some.

13.5 went live on May 20. They just released 13.5.1 yesterday to patch the unc0ver jailbreak.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211214

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