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Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by vertex-four »

rglullis wrote: post #49
vertex-four wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, possibly this could be an optimisation; although then you get to worry about leaking information about your group's contents to the world - anything you send, other clients in your group will ask random servers on the internet for, by a globally identifiable hash. In the best case, this just leaks my friends' meme sharing habits - in the worst case, this announces to the world "I am in a group sharing materials…

You are right about the problem of leaking metadata - just by asking for the file reveals to the world that you know about it. However, this is something that can be fixed on IPFS itself, and I believe it is even in their roadmap: the idea of adding "friend peers". Your IPFS node could ask for sensitive files to this privileged list of nodes only. So, your client can have a simple logic: if you have e2e encrypted mes…

Sure, if IPFS gets that feature, maybe it's worth it. (Although maybe not - at that point IPFS is just an overweight tooling for downloading files from a list of known peers block by block.) I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by DenseComet »

_8j50 wrote: post #22

Great work as always Martrix and Riot team. This is a long awaited feature, right now I am considering using Riot to replace most of my messaging, if it supports a SMS bridge. Given the anti-privacy climate in the US, it's great how Matrix is not US based.

There is an sms bridge that already exists, however, I'm not sure how well it works.

https://github.com/tijder/SmsMatrix

If you're on iOS, there is also an iMessage bridge that exists.

https://github.com/matrix-hacks/matrix-puppet-imessage

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

zaroth wrote: post #15
kick wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me wonder: isn't this basically the perfect thing to bootstrap a decentralized DNS with? In a messaging system there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain, and the idea of genuinely-anonymizable communication should be appealing to just about anyone. I might not be thinking broadly enough here though.

I think decentralized DNS with machine readable addresses is basically a solved problem (e.g. Magnet links or Tor Hidden Services). A domain in this case is akin to a hash of a public key, or something like that, just enough to securely identify the target of the communication so there’s nothing to “revoke” although that’s not to say the peer discovery systems could not try to blacklist you. Decentralized DNS with hu…

People want a permissionless (like bitcoin) name service, and they also don't want good names / trademarks to be squatted.

However, between these two you can only pick one. You can't solve squatting problem without some kind of authority over issued names.

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by Arathorn »

Unklejoe wrote: post #50

Just wanted to say thanks. I've been running my own homeserver for a little over two years now without any real issue. I somehow managed to convince 4 of my friends to use Riot and it's been great. We were originally using Group Me. My friends are not tech savvy and couldn't care less about software freedom or privacy, but I was able to convince them to switch by luring them with the fact that they could post unlimit…

thanks :) agreed that we need to find a better way of managing config upgrades though. YAML is great, but preserving customisations over config upgrades is impossible(?)

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by core-questions »

gonehome wrote: post #44

This is exciting - I'm looking forward to it. I've been nerding out a bit playing with Matrix/Riot and Urbit - there's a lot of exciting stuff happening in this space. If you like what Matrix is doing consider paying $10/month for your own server via Modular.im ( https://modular.im/ ). It supports the Matrix devs and you get your own high performance federated server to use on the network. Their automation makes it e…

How is the new Urbit stuff, since you mention it? Is it usable for a casual but interested user?

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by gonehome »

core-questions wrote: post #55
gonehome wrote: post #44

This is exciting - I'm looking forward to it. I've been nerding out a bit playing with Matrix/Riot and Urbit - there's a lot of exciting stuff happening in this space. If you like what Matrix is doing consider paying $10/month for your own server via Modular.im ( https://modular.im/ ). It supports the Matrix devs and you get your own high performance federated server to use on the network. Their automation makes it e…

How is the new Urbit stuff, since you mention it? Is it usable for a casual but interested user?

Depends on how 'casual', it's definitely usable and works - but there's still some effort required to figure things out.

I've found the docs are generally pretty good and the community is helpful so if you're interested in playing with it it's worth it.

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by StavrosK »

Does anyone have a guide/instructions for self-hosting a Matrix server? I'm not sure which server to run, I heard Synapse is a bit heavy and there's a lighter Rust alternative? Which one should I use?

Is it okay to run it at home, or will I lose messages on downtime? I assume other hosts will retry when my connection is back up?

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by roaur »

StavrosK wrote: post #57

Does anyone have a guide/instructions for self-hosting a Matrix server? I'm not sure which server to run, I heard Synapse is a bit heavy and there's a lighter Rust alternative? Which one should I use? Is it okay to run it at home, or will I lose messages on downtime? I assume other hosts will retry when my connection is back up?

I installed my homeserver with this!

https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/blob/master/INSTALL.md

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by kovek »

I’m excited to try matrix with bridges to:

- Facebook messenger - Instagram - Whatsapp - Slack - Discord - email (yes)

If I can use a local client (iOS or Android), and not have to resort to a separate server, it’s awesome

Re: P2P Matrix

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Post by LibertyBeta »

Arathorn wrote: post #33
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #29

> absolute total autonomy and ownership of their conversations, because the only place their conversations exist is on the devices they own. This also means a total loss of data if something happens to the device. Of course, I can imagine some usecases where this would be a plus, but I suspect that most of them are on the wrong side of the law. Now, coming from Russia, I know that it doesn't automatically mean it is…

It doesn't necessarily mean total loss of data, because it would replicate onto your other devices - and you could also run a server too as an always-on p2p node. The idea is to have a hybrid, so casual users can start off p2p but then pin their accounts to a server when they see the value.

This would be similar to people who run Syncthing meshes for their file system backups, correct?
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