I had been heartened by the right's recent upswing in fierce support for the first amendment, but unfortunately I've seen little of that support during the protests as freedom of assembly and freedom of the press have been attacked. For example Rand Paul has not tweeted in a week. Sadly, as always, these kind of principled arguments, on both sides, are a sham to advance whatever the partisan battle of the week is.
Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
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Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#92I can imagine animosity from the leadership, for example classifying most journalists as "fake news", contributing to violence from the front line against them.
You're assuming most cops support Trump?
We don't have to assume police told us themselves they do:
https://www.policemag.com/342098/the-2016-police-presidentia...
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#93Here's another article uncovering the brutality of the police [1]. Some of the scenes are really inhuman [2] and I feel sorry for the poor people trying to make their voices heard. I hope, that both sides, the protesters and police force will find a way, to exit that spiral of violence. But right now it looks like this won't happen. It's a shame. If the state acts harder against protesters, journalists and civilian b…
Third party oversight. This country was founded on checks and balances. There are no checks to their power as it stands now.
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#94@dang are you making an exception for these posts given the current situation? Although important, I do not see anything of technological interest. Any post about the protests are going to incite flame wars and make HN indistinguishable from any other social website right now.
i am curious about that too
it is the justification given for shutting down anti ccp discussions and articles
what makes this situation different? surely not the scale of human atrocity? ccp still has the us gov beat, hands down. maybe us lives just matter more?
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is plenty of video footage of journalists being directly targeted and attacked by the police.
Intentionally picked up from the crowd?
OUR LATEST DATA:
192 total press freedom violations
—31+ arrests
—131 assaults (108 by police, 23 by others)
—30 equipment or newsroom damage.
Assault category breakdown:
45 physical attacks (30 by police)
30 tear gassings
17 pepper sprayings
46 rubber bullet/projectiles
https://twitter.com/uspresstracker/status/126787802436572365...
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#96"Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic." HN Guidelines But this is probably just my lurker observation. Not against all news but there should be at least some spark of insight of novelty. Feel free to flag now. Edit: To expand a bit.…
News stories about freedom of speech and freedom of the press have always been welcome on HN, which is common in tech communities, and the words “most” and “probably” are doing a lot of work there.
This rule is fuzzy by design and I really don’t get why some people here are so pedantic about it.
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#97Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#98Over 100 upvotes in 20 minutes for something non tech related?
Right now, on the front page, there are posts about the recreation of the first automobile, the archaeological discovery of cannabis residue at a dig site, news articles about meetings between Zuckerberg and civil rights leaders. While this site trends heavily towards tech, it is not so narrow-minded that we cannot discuss things not strictly related to that subject.
i bring up this argument when anti ccp topics get flagged or modded, but for some reason the argument does not work in that context
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#99For anyone who wants to keep an eye on what's going on, the subreddit /r/PublicFreakout is full of videos of police (and rioters) engaging in violence. I haven't found a better source yet. There's sometimes misattributed content, so be sure to wade carefully. Many of these cases have multiple videos from different people from different angles as well. The evidence is quite damning.
Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not the first article claiming that on HN (the previous one was flagged to death). Like the previous one, this one does not show anything objective to support this interpretation.
The last time I linked you multiple objective instances showing journalists being attacked by the police unprovoked, you made some strong efforts to try and ignore the context of those videos. I don't think you're here to actually argue in good faith at all.
> ignore the context of those videos
Huh? There was no context in most of those videos, which was exactly the problem I was pointing to, and is the same one with this post.