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George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by senectus1 »

goostavos wrote: post #19
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

As a frequent reader of thedonald.win, for some people, yes... yes, it was. I honestly don't know how you could mentally wiggle yourself into thinking that 8:45 seconds of someone being on your neck could have an alternative cause of death. Hell, but let's say it was something else. Let's say it was actually a heart attack that ultimately did him in. Does that matter? Surely, we can point towards the stress of having…

how on earth do you read thedonald.win regularly.

To me it's a better formatted version of 4chan. its a collection of trolls all circle jerking.

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by wintorez »

clort wrote: post #25
wintorez wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "potential" in "any potential intoxicants in his system" mean? I thought the point of an autopsy is to remove doubt, not add to it.

If I recall, that was a preliminary report. Perhaps the tests hadn't come back? (access is restricted for european visitors I can't follow the link)

Makes sense

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by mercer »

dogma1138 wrote: post #42
gotoeleven wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm puzzled by this though, isn't the knee on the neck thing a standard technique used by cops all the time? Apparently people don't usually die from it or this would happen all the time, right? Was the cop somehow doing it wrong?

It’s a standard submission technique however you aren’t supposed to put your weight on the neck it’s more to restrict movement of the shoulders and the head the weight should be on the upper spine between the shoulder blades with the knee extended to the top of the neck, if you press on the side of the neck if it’s rotated or put your weight onto the neck itself you can kill the person. Alternatively another techniqu…

> Untrained cop on a power trip using improper technique to subdue a person for a fucking forever and a half is a recipe for disaster.

What makes you assume the cop wasn't deliberately trying to murder? Or did you mean it more as an 'in general' statement?

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by bergstromm466 »

maest wrote: post #37
VieEnCode wrote: post #33

Why is this flagged?

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Also, I suspect the non-US HN users are slowly getting fed up with this one topic capturing a large part of the online conversat…

> Also, I suspect the non-US HN users are slowly getting fed up with this one topic capturing a large part of the online conversation.

Hmmm no I can't imagine that, could you describe your view more? Why would they be fed up, in your view?

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by goostavos »

senectus1 wrote: post #51
goostavos wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a frequent reader of thedonald.win, for some people, yes... yes, it was. I honestly don't know how you could mentally wiggle yourself into thinking that 8:45 seconds of someone being on your neck could have an alternative cause of death. Hell, but let's say it was something else. Let's say it was actually a heart attack that ultimately did him in. Does that matter? Surely, we can point towards the stress of having…

how on earth do you read thedonald.win regularly. To me it's a better formatted version of 4chan. its a collection of trolls all circle jerking.

I'm late to see and reply to this, but to answer your question, I read it (as well as listen to "alt-right" media) because I like trying to form my own opinions on things, which I don't think I'm able to do well without consuming these other sources and seeing the various lines being toed across them.

That said, it's been a frustrating read the last few days. The lack of anything resembling nuance is astounding.

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by david38 »

headsupernova wrote: post #3
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

the cop's autopsy blamed underlying health conditions, unsurprisingly. They'll protect their own at all costs and lie to us in broad daylight. Abolish the police.

Those particular ones? Sure. In general? That’s laughable. I’ve lived in places like that. The crime rate is sky high. Hell, the city I was born in was once the murder capital of the world.

Only people I’ve ever seen say things like this are people who have never seen what they’re talking about.

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by pacamara619 »

bergstromm466 wrote: post #55
maest wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Also, I suspect the non-US HN users are slowly getting fed up with this one topic capturing a large part of the online conversat…

> Also, I suspect the non-US HN users are slowly getting fed up with this one topic capturing a large part of the online conversation. Hmmm no I can't imagine that, could you describe your view more? Why would they be fed up, in your view?

> Hmmm no I can't imagine that

Holy motherflipping cow the amount of Selbstgefälligkeit is insane. How about you guys _actually use_ your second amendment for once if you're so upset with the police.

Get your shit together. Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together.

And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it… Or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together. Get your shit together!

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