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Re: Firefox 77

#101
post #24

Everyone not happy with pocket recommendations, what is the alternate source of revenue? Not enough will pay for the product. On the other hand Mozilla has to compete with Apple, Google & Microsoft, all of whom are fighting hard for the Web. Mozilla is doing good overall. They are doing some fundamental work to get back the technical edge, still trying to keep the future of the platform open with WebAssembly and thei…

Mozilla makes 10s of millions off of the default search bar.

Re: Firefox 77

#102
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The $500M per year they get from Google isn't enough to pay the bills?

It's dangerous to depend on a single company (that also happens to have a competing product). What happens if the money stops coming?

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Re: Firefox 77

#103

And now my address bar expands on click, because browser.urlbar.update1 was removed from about:config. I knew this day was coming, but I'm still not happy it's here. The movement is distracting, and the alignment of the bar's expanded state is terrible. There's a reason most graphic design follows a grid system. We need a way to turn this off. I realize the old about:config flag was tied to a legacy code pathway, but…

FWIW I quite like it. I'm not sure your dislike is universal, and tbh your comment feels a little https://xkcd.com/1172/ :-)

I don't doubt that every change will have some detractors—but that isn't a reason to shout down all complaints. "It's just a vocal minority—most users like it!" Well, maybe that's true, and maybe it isn't—we'll never know, because this isn't the sort of thing you can measure with analytics. All you can do is listen to feedback.

Right now, my comment is sitting at the top of this HN thread, even though we're several updates out from when the design change was first introduced. There's similar outcry over on Reddit. I think it's safe to extrapolate that a significant enough number of people dislike the expanding bar to at least warrant a hidden config flag.

Re: Firefox 77

#104
post #98
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe you should be grateful Firefox offers (quite a lot of) customisation opportunities, instead of just posting snarky remarks. That's called user feedback. Users are always right. And looking at Firefox's browser share they are not getting too many new users anymore. Making the life of your existing users a little more miserable does not sound like a very sustainable strategy.

> That's called user feedback Not in any useful sense. "What do I need to turn off this time" presumably just implies "they should never change anything, the product is perfect already". (Which one was the perfect version, out of curiosity?)

> they should never change anything, the product is perfect already

You're exaggerating. The problem isn't that Mozilla changes things, it's that they've set the bar too low for changes. Many of their updates seemingly deliver change for the sake of change, when a more reasonable strategy would be to require a change to be compelling enough to outweigh the frustration and friction it will cause. An imperfect UI that users know how to use is better than a moving target UI that constantly brings new surprises.

Re: Firefox 77

#105
post #29

The biggest item on my wish-list is still a user-option to restore the previous (sensible) click behavior for the address bar: one click places the cursor, double click selects (all, but if I need to triple click for that it would be fine, too). Sadly, this wish will probably not come true any time soon... or ever.

CMD+L [I'm on a mac, adapt as appropriate for your particular platform] places the cursor in the address bar and selects all the text.

Then, if needs be, hit left arrow to move cursor to start of URL and deselect text. Hit right arrow to move to end of URL and deselect text.

Seems to be a standard keyboard shortcut across browsers. Works for me in Firefox, Yandex and Opera.

Re: Firefox 77

#106
post #56
post #24

Everyone not happy with pocket recommendations, what is the alternate source of revenue? Not enough will pay for the product. On the other hand Mozilla has to compete with Apple, Google & Microsoft, all of whom are fighting hard for the Web. Mozilla is doing good overall. They are doing some fundamental work to get back the technical edge, still trying to keep the future of the platform open with WebAssembly and thei…

I don't hate them because I like, trust and want to support Mozilla. I happily click on them. I'd be happier if I knew how my data is being stored, however, since the recommendations seem to be well tailored to my interests.

This appears to be the description of exactly that: https://getpocket.com/privacy

I find it to be rather well-written for this sort of thing. As in, it was written with an intent to communicate what it's saying, which is the opposite of the usual.

Re: Firefox 77

#107
post #29

The biggest item on my wish-list is still a user-option to restore the previous (sensible) click behavior for the address bar: one click places the cursor, double click selects (all, but if I need to triple click for that it would be fine, too). Sadly, this wish will probably not come true any time soon... or ever.

CMD+L [I'm on a mac, adapt as appropriate for your particular platform] places the cursor in the address bar and selects all the text. Then, if needs be, hit left arrow to move cursor to start of URL and deselect text. Hit right arrow to move to end of URL and deselect text. Seems to be a standard keyboard shortcut across browsers. Works for me in Firefox, Yandex and Opera.

F6 everywhere else

Re: Firefox 77

#109
post #15

No Firefox, no! Please don't embed distraction directly into the browser (pocket recommendations)! I don't want to hear about Coronavirus or ongoing politics bullshit whenever I open a tab! I just want to ignore this noise.

You can use the Blank New Tab Add-on - I've been using it since setting my 'home page' to about:blank stopped working.

Re: Firefox 77

#110

I would financially support a fork of Firefox with all the garbage removed. The home page bullshit, Pocket, all the automatic requests made without user action, and more that I probably don't know of.

+100 I will pay $100 annually, but I would need assurances that the telemetry is also 100% removed (no calls home, WHATSOEVER).

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