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Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by GolDDranks » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:36 AM UTC

mister_hn wrote: post #2

why don't you return it back then and buy something better? Isn't there a money-back guarantee for the first X days?

The problem is that there isn't anything better. The author said that he hates using Windows and his experimentation with Linux wasn't an entire success. That limits him to Macs. The 2016-2018 models were a disaster. The only reasonable choice left is the choice he made.

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by paulcarroty » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:36 AM UTC

mbp2020 - https://cfenollosa.com/blog/img/cam-mbp.jpg

air2013 - https://cfenollosa.com/blog/img/cam-mba.jpg

iphonese2016 - https://cfenollosa.com/blog/img/cam-se.jpg

Perfect illustration of "Apple is iphone-first company".

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by jack_pp » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:38 AM UTC

p_l wrote: post #10

jack_pp wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU requires a mandatory return policy of atleast 14 days for online purchases afaik

Devil is in the details. Also, somehow, the "buy-test-return" mentality simply isn't present around Europe, at least never seen it as anything other than exceptional.

I've been sort of abusing it since it became available to the point that I won't even consider buying any electronics over 200$ that I can not return or atleast test in advance until I'm sure I'll be satisfied with the purchase.

But you are right, where I'm from (Romania) people look at me in disbelief when I suggest it, thinking that the companies will punish them if they do it when that's not really true.

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by lkramer » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:40 AM UTC

rafamvc wrote: post #6

Wsl 2 is incredible. Got a 1000 dollars dell desktop and it is insanely faster than my Mac. Windows has improved a lot, and Linux based development on windows is a lot easier now. 5 years ago I would have quit a job if they asked me to use windows. Macos is still marginally better but not worth the cost IMHO.

Out of curiosity, why not simply run Linux at that point?

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by leereeves » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:41 AM UTC

paulcarroty wrote: post #12

mbp2020 - https://cfenollosa.com/blog/img/cam-mbp.jpg air2013 - https://cfenollosa.com/blog/img/cam-mba.jpg iphonese2016 - https://cfenollosa.com/blog/img/cam-se.jpg Perfect illustration of "Apple is iphone-first company".

The third URL doesn't work.

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by TomMarius » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:41 AM UTC

lkramer wrote: post #14

rafamvc wrote: post #6

Wsl 2 is incredible. Got a 1000 dollars dell desktop and it is insanely faster than my Mac. Windows has improved a lot, and Linux based development on windows is a lot easier now. 5 years ago I would have quit a job if they asked me to use windows. Macos is still marginally better but not worth the cost IMHO.

Out of curiosity, why not simply run Linux at that point?

A huge number of small annoyances during "normal" usage of a computer. Issues with sleep, displays, hi DPI, even my wallpaper and fonts don't always display correctly...

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by HugoDaniel » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:41 AM UTC

I have the new 16 MBP and love the touch bar. I find it much easier to change brightness/sound (place the finger and drag); I find it much easier to control apps, like music, safari, and all, and the habituation period was shorter than with the keys back in the day (when i started using macs).

I would love to be able to easily customize the touch bar though, the author mentions BetterTouchTool, looks good, might be worth it.

Like the author I also have some problems with Catalina: the subtle hangs drive me nuts, the bugs with the True Tone going pale, the gpu's going crazy just because they want

PS: Apple - please consider improving your AirPlay video support or doing some other protocol for it. It sucks having to use cables for even HDMI video playback on a secondary screen. (or place back the display port / HDMI entrance)

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by humbfool2 » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:42 AM UTC

rafamvc wrote: post #6

Wsl 2 is incredible. Got a 1000 dollars dell desktop and it is insanely faster than my Mac. Windows has improved a lot, and Linux based development on windows is a lot easier now. 5 years ago I would have quit a job if they asked me to use windows. Macos is still marginally better but not worth the cost IMHO.

I moved to Windows after 5 years of Mac this month. Because I knew I will be working from home, decided to build a good workstation (Thank you Ryzen ) and I Couldn't agree more WSL is very helpful for people who like windows UI and functionalities of Linux. There are few quirks but it works great.

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by the_duke » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:43 AM UTC

exdsq wrote: post #9

rafamvc wrote: post #6

Wsl 2 is incredible. Got a 1000 dollars dell desktop and it is insanely faster than my Mac. Windows has improved a lot, and Linux based development on windows is a lot easier now. 5 years ago I would have quit a job if they asked me to use windows. Macos is still marginally better but not worth the cost IMHO.

+1 for WSL 2. I'm a huge advocate of it at work where people are very pro-Linux. I have noticed a few issues with it that don't make sense seeing as it's meant to have a full Linux Kernel (such as sockets not appearing) but that could be Ubuntu-20.04 being the one at fault to be fair :)

In contrast to WSL1, WSL2 is a full-blown Linux virtual machine. It "just" has some tooling to make integration nicer.

So some awkwardness is to be expected.

Re: Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first time, I don't love it

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Post by paulcarroty » Tue, Jun 02, 2020, 10:43 AM UTC

exdsq wrote: post #9

rafamvc wrote: post #6

Wsl 2 is incredible. Got a 1000 dollars dell desktop and it is insanely faster than my Mac. Windows has improved a lot, and Linux based development on windows is a lot easier now. 5 years ago I would have quit a job if they asked me to use windows. Macos is still marginally better but not worth the cost IMHO.

+1 for WSL 2. I'm a huge advocate of it at work where people are very pro-Linux. I have noticed a few issues with it that don't make sense seeing as it's meant to have a full Linux Kernel (such as sockets not appearing) but that could be Ubuntu-20.04 being the one at fault to be fair :)

-1 for WSL. If I need Linux, it will be obviously native.

Also WSL doesn't solve:

* forced Windows updates when you don't need them

* shitload of failed updates: bricked OS, deleted user data etc

* stupid non-uninstallable game icons in start menu, a lot of vendor-forever-locked garbage like cortana & one drive

* bad fs performance in general