Laser pointers are about to be bought out everywhere if this keeps going around the states. What is honestly the point of this? Show of force? Cool. Lots of people look scared based on these videos. Not.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are listening, but honestly I don't know that to do. I feel helpless and scared (which is what they want, of course).
I feel the same way. What exactly can we do other than vote? Protesting doesn't seem to actually work (in America anymore at least).
The American people made their preferences clear in the 2016 election. That clearly does not work.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this. The warning signs of the current administration's fascist-adjacent policies have been here for four years. Please do not pretend that it's now that Americans cannot heed those signs due to protests, especially when the protests are partially in response to the current administration.
More that many Americans will now see fascism as providing a certain method of protection. Plenty of authoritarians are popularly elected based on some threat.
Well, yeah. Fascism tends to be popular, even though it’s really bad and needs to be resisted.
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#54I wonder at what point the military will stop obeying criminal orders. Looking at the military leadership now, don’t fail us like certain police did.
When has any military ever stopped obeying criminal orders? I’m sure it has happened before, but I’m sure they are rare and isolated cases.
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#55I know from another thread about how the police use indiscriminate violence instead of de-escalation that this is totally ok with about half the people here. That half can go fuck themselves
EDIT: Can someone not possibly support peaceful protests and the police shutting down riots/looters?
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#56Forcing/encouraging the populace to wear masks, thus anonymising them, at the same time that many of them have lost their jobs and are unable to enjoy a social life, may not have been a good idea...
How do you feel about cops murdering black people? Was that a good idea?
There was a struggle to get George Floyd out of his car, and again into a police vehicle. Bodycam footage from the police, or a statement from them, has not been provided. We don't have the full facts.
We know that George Floyd was a repeat criminal, with a record of armed violence, who was being arrested for another criminal act.
Having a knee on his neck so long? Police incompetence.
You know what else is police incompetence, by the same police force? The death of Justine Damond: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond
Killed by a Minnesota police officer fast-tracked through cadet training for diversity reasons.
Where were the protests for her? Why is it just regular police error when a white Australian woman dies in the USA, after having done nothing, but a huge injustice and evidence of massive inequality when a man with a history of violence, in the process of resisting arrest, is killed by the same incompetent police force?
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
More that many Americans will now see fascism as providing a certain method of protection. Plenty of authoritarians are popularly elected based on some threat.
I find this to be a much more compelling commentary and concern than the one I replied to. If what you mention does happen, it will be legitimately frightening. At least when authoritarianism hit my home country (Venezuela), we could leave.
If we go back to the Kent State shooting, Gallup found that 58% blamed the students and 11% blamed the National Guard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings#Aftermath...
I don't see it as a crazy idea that shooting some protestors would be popular.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's illegal for the military to monitor US citizens. It is illegal for them to police non-federal property.
Wasn't this past curfew (7pm in DC), which is illegal for them to be gathering?
Indeed it was a curfew violation. That is not a valid reason to illegally use the might of the US military.
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#59This post was at #2 on the front page, and then it disappeared completely.
Because god forbid this country's descent into fascism is discussed instead of the newest cli tool to be rewritten in rust.
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#60I wonder at what point the military will stop obeying criminal orders. Looking at the military leadership now, don’t fail us like certain police did.
I would not bet on that happening before way way too late. Think if Guantanamo. And anyway there's still a lot of space between this and the army shooting on the crowd (which happened in many places in the world historically).
Including the United States at Kent State.