Live data from Hacker News

Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

thedrive.com

31–40 of 116 posts

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#31
post #22
post #4

With a Red Cross. You’d think that wouldn’t be allowed, but who out there is enforcing what things are supposed to be allowed?

How often do we think they've done that in other countries?

Who is “we” or “they?” I’ve certainly never done it. It has been terrible every time someone has done it.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#32
post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

What a sad day for hacker news when the parent post is the top post and this is a comment so far fetched in reality...

The Threatened use of military is not new. It was deployed during the riots in the 90s

Did you allude to illegal immigrants who broke into the country and was put in jail until they are processed as “families in cages”?

The use of police and national guards has always been used by every country to deal with rioters and looters.

I still don’t see any examples of fascism.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#33
I'm not an American but a Canadian who has Canadian friends down there. People who would never have considered buying guns up here are purchase one per family member down there because of the riots.

You have a crazy country. Stay safe.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#34
post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

The emergencies are all in Democrat run cities, where there's complete anarchy. Businesses are being smashed in, apartments are being burn to the ground. A world war 2 memorial was defaced. A church was burned. The Lincoln memorial was defaced. Macy's, the host of the Thanksgiving parade, has been completely raided and destroyed in NYC. Hundreds of Businesses were destroyed in Minneapolis, many who serve minority neighborhoods, provide jobs and essential services, completely wrecked. By my count 20+ cities have experienced intense destruction in the last 72 hours. I'm sorry but the cop who supposedly caused this all has already been arrested and transferred to maximum security prison where he awaits murder charges. If that's not enough for you, then you don't give a damn about justice. Meanwhile you cannot let domestic terror reign. That is not justice. That's chaos.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#35
post #24
post #7

I wonder at what point the military will stop obeying criminal orders. Looking at the military leadership now, don’t fail us like certain police did.

Anyone seriously considering this is sorely mistaken. When dictators consolidate their power, they purge their administration of anyone who does not pledge their supreme loyalty to them. The principled ones of course quit immediately, but without a doubt there will be significant number of people that remain. They are only human, and they have to deal with exactly the same problem that anyone else quitting their job…

Of course, I hope that line is never crossed

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#36
post #31
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often do we think they've done that in other countries?

Who is “we” or “they?” I’ve certainly never done it. It has been terrible every time someone has done it.

We, the people in this discussion; they, the US military.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#37
post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

I am certain to be in the minority, but how is this much different than seeing humvee and military armored police vehicles rolling down streets as of late? The helicopters were performing recon and visuals, again how is that different than police helicopters in LA that follow high speed chases? This particular helicopter story feels overblown and out of touch.

> at least under Federal Aviation Administration rules, this maneuver was very illegal.

> § 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: (b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

> New York Times reporter Thomas Gibbons-Neff said that one of the Black Hawks had flown so low that it broke a large branch off a tree with its rotor wash, which fell, but thankfully didn't injure anyone on the ground below.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#38
post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

I am certain to be in the minority, but how is this much different than seeing humvee and military armored police vehicles rolling down streets as of late? The helicopters were performing recon and visuals, again how is that different than police helicopters in LA that follow high speed chases? This particular helicopter story feels overblown and out of touch.

You can take a look at the videos yourself. Go on snapchat maps, click near the WH. That[0] is not "recon and visuals," that is a military helicopter intimidating US civilians on our own soil.

[0]: https://s.sc-cdn.net/1KO38_D-saomzlpaMCGJvY96UMxYdW5Lsb-9MzD...

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#39
post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

> The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening?

When people feel that their security is threatened, they welcome fascism with open arms.

Large numbers of Americans are going to cheer this on.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

#40
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are listening, but honestly I don't know that to do. I feel helpless and scared (which is what they want, of course).

General strike.

Default on debts, boycotts, deplatforming and platform advantages that could be leveraged. Lots of ways to cause pain where it hurts most...
Post reply on HN