The level of disinformation I'm seeing around this is like nothing I've ever seen before. The thing is: many of these protests have dozens of people livestreaming the entire thing. You can see what is happening in real time, and it makes a lot of the disinformation extremely obvious. I think a lot of the disinformation is just a function of how twitter (and to a lesser extent facebook) encourage misunderstanding/rage…
Protests become fertile ground for online disinformation
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Re: Protests become fertile ground for online disinformation
#102The level of disinformation I'm seeing around this is like nothing I've ever seen before. The thing is: many of these protests have dozens of people livestreaming the entire thing. You can see what is happening in real time, and it makes a lot of the disinformation extremely obvious. I think a lot of the disinformation is just a function of how twitter (and to a lesser extent facebook) encourage misunderstanding/rage…
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#103It seems like there is some serious disinformation/psych ops working overtime across the internet right now; the tone is weirdly hostile. I would hope people would question the motivation of obviously divisive rhetoric, but it's clear that is a resounding no. As they say, people always buy with their emotions. I'm afraid the days of an open internet are quickly closing.
It seems like there is some serious disinformation/psych ops working overtime across the internet right now; the tone is weirdly hostile As someone who has been online since the late 1980's, this sentence can easily apply increasingly to the Internet since around 2014 onwards. I'm afraid the days of an open internet are quickly closing. That ship sailed years ago. You're just not in one of the groups being actively c…
That's pretty unusual to be mainstream. This will be used for enacting policy, who knows what it is at this point, but it's not going to be "Oh you're shadow banned, kicked off a platform, or discredited by association". I'm talking about the lines of China; you can't say something against the powers that be, if you do, we'll ensure you are financially ruined or sent to jail kind.
Re: Protests become fertile ground for online disinformation
#104I have found if you have nothing constructive to do, then twitter sucks you in and is very addictive. But after a few years or so of constant nonsense, you become adapted to the addiction and just ignore everything on it. Atleast thats what happened to me. I went from constantly checking twitter to deleting my account and just going to the feed of one or two people once a day to keep informed. I now laugh at how work…
I spent the better have of my life studying cultures and how people interact within those cultures. Twitter has been a very interesting petri dish for me to see how people interact with each other when they feel like they can say and behave any way they want. Its interesting to see how Twitter (and social media in general) transformed from something positive where you could find community within a large subset of peo…
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#105I have not seen even a fraction of the unprovoked police beatings and shootings, which have definitively occurred, aired on news broadcasts. That includes incidents where the press has been physically attacked by police. How can this be representative of reality?
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just in the last day or two: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/world-war-ii-memorial-vandal... https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/05/25/veterans-ange... https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2020/05/25/Wa... https://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/va-headquarters-vandal... https://www.wcax.com/content/news/Veterans-memorial-monument... A bit older: https://www.kptv.com/news/3-arrested-vandalism-suspect-wan…
1) Despite your preamble, this is the only linked instance actually from the last day: Unknown persons tagged DC structures during the protest, with the same single person spraying messages on the WWII and Lincoln memorials. 2) Memorial Day: Unknown persons damaged two stones on a monument to Puerto Rican veterans for an unknown reason. 3) Memorial Day: Unknown persons painted an obscure reference to Peruvian communi…
But as to these not being "Antifa", get real. If any weren't done by Antifa, Antifa would nonetheless cheer the perpetrators on with great enthusiasm. That's what Antifa is about. They are denigrators and destroyers of that which is decent and noble in humankind.
Re: Protests become fertile ground for online disinformation
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) Despite your preamble, this is the only linked instance actually from the last day: Unknown persons tagged DC structures during the protest, with the same single person spraying messages on the WWII and Lincoln memorials. 2) Memorial Day: Unknown persons damaged two stones on a monument to Puerto Rican veterans for an unknown reason. 3) Memorial Day: Unknown persons painted an obscure reference to Peruvian communi…
If by desperate , you mean low effort , I'll sort of accept that. I spent about 90s on it. But as to these not being "Antifa", get real. If any weren't done by Antifa, Antifa would nonetheless cheer the perpetrators on with great enthusiasm. That's what Antifa is about. They are denigrators and destroyers of that which is decent and noble in humankind.
...fascism, as per their name?
The KKK, as in your own link?
Or currently, multiple Confederate memorials[0] created specifically "to further a white supremacist future"[1], which you ever so gingerly avoided referencing directly?
[0]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george...
[1]: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544266880/confederate-statues...
Re: Protests become fertile ground for online disinformation
#108I have found if you have nothing constructive to do, then twitter sucks you in and is very addictive. But after a few years or so of constant nonsense, you become adapted to the addiction and just ignore everything on it. Atleast thats what happened to me. I went from constantly checking twitter to deleting my account and just going to the feed of one or two people once a day to keep informed. I now laugh at how work…
I spent the better have of my life studying cultures and how people interact within those cultures. Twitter has been a very interesting petri dish for me to see how people interact with each other when they feel like they can say and behave any way they want. Its interesting to see how Twitter (and social media in general) transformed from something positive where you could find community within a large subset of peo…
It is very self selecting though, isn't it? You even acknowledged that mentioning people fleeing Twitter for Mastodon. It seems Twitter (etc.) attracts the people who want to make a lot of noise without repercussions, who then proceed to make the most noise. And studying behavior on Twitter just studying this small subset of Twitter users, who are a even smaller subset of the general population. Or are you able to adjust for all this?
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
False-flag instigators, intentionally escalating in bad faith to provoke a violent response from protesters and police alike. EDIT - Watch the instigating jerk flip off the protesters who dared confront him as he triggers what would become a failure cascade of protests that had been peaceful for hours . https://reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/gtn3ps/video_of_the...
What exactly makes you think that this person was a false-flag instigator?
Did you watch the video?
Re: Protests become fertile ground for online disinformation
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly makes you think that this person was a false-flag instigator?
The fact that he flips off the protesters who try to stop him and continues instigating until the police escalate. Did you watch the video?
Because he wants to break the police car obviously.
> continues instigating until the police escalate
More like until he is shooed off. I do not see the police in the video at all actually. Regardless, would that not be the best idea if you are going to cause trouble? You would not want to be arrested after all.
And yeah, I did watch the video.