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George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by snazz »

Jackim wrote: post #4
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

See here: https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/medical-examiner-n... > The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. > “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.

How are they even allowed to say "any potential intoxicants" when they haven't tested for intoxicants? Did they do a test? That seems like a very powerful and prone-to-misuse political tool.

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by Chilinot »

throwaway6497 wrote: post #13

Can someone comment on what the official police report said and how it differs from the private report? If you can provide references that will help too. My search abilities failed me to get a succinct answer.

There are several comments here that explains the difference. Summarized, previous autopsy blamed pre-existing heart condition for the death. While this new independent autopsy determined it to be asphyxiation.

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by goostavos »

caconym_ wrote: post #16
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

Not really, but the "county medical examiner" didn't come to the same conclusion. IIRC they essentially blamed pre-existing conditions for causing his expiration right at the exact moment a cop was crushing his neck between a knee and the pavement.

It's like that line from Collateral. "What? No. I didn't kill him. The bullets and the fall did."

It's obvious if you watch the video: "his own body killed him"

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by throwawayshit0 »

goostavos wrote: post #19
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

As a frequent reader of thedonald.win, for some people, yes... yes, it was. I honestly don't know how you could mentally wiggle yourself into thinking that 8:45 seconds of someone being on your neck could have an alternative cause of death. Hell, but let's say it was something else. Let's say it was actually a heart attack that ultimately did him in. Does that matter? Surely, we can point towards the stress of having…

why do you read thedonald.win?

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by clort »

wintorez wrote: post #15
Jackim wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See here: https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/medical-examiner-n... > The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. > “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.

What does "potential" in "any potential intoxicants in his system" mean? I thought the point of an autopsy is to remove doubt, not add to it.

If I recall, that was a preliminary report. Perhaps the tests hadn't come back?

(access is restricted for european visitors I can't follow the link)

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by cstross »

headsupernova wrote: post #3
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

the cop's autopsy blamed underlying health conditions, unsurprisingly. They'll protect their own at all costs and lie to us in broad daylight. Abolish the police.

In the GDR (East Germany) during Stalin's period running the Communist bloc, prior to about 1953 they used to execute dissidents using a guillotine in the Stasi basement. The death certificates stated the cause of death as "low blood pressure".

They knew it was wrong, they didn't want to leave any documentary evidence: this is the same bullshit, just closer to home.

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by wnevets »

jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

There are people (i.e A Sheriff's deputy) claiming [0] you can't choke someone to death with a knee to the neck. I'm not sure if the goal is claim Floyd didn't die, died of something else or they're just trying to spread disinformation

https://www.magnoliastatelive.com/2020/05/29/mississippi-she...

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by mixedCase »

headsupernova wrote: post #3
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

the cop's autopsy blamed underlying health conditions, unsurprisingly. They'll protect their own at all costs and lie to us in broad daylight. Abolish the police.

> Abolish the police.

Ok, I'll entertain the thought, what do you propose to replace it? Free for all deathmatch?

Re: George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds

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Post by yoavm »

headsupernova wrote: post #3
jedimastert wrote: post #2

Wait, was that in question?

the cop's autopsy blamed underlying health conditions, unsurprisingly. They'll protect their own at all costs and lie to us in broad daylight. Abolish the police.

I'm sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm not American and not a native English speaker. What do you mean when you say "Abolish the police"? You think there shouldn't be police at all? Or that it needs a reform? Do you disagree with the idea of having laws? I'm genuinely asking because I'm seeing this phrase more and more now and I'm not sure what people actually mean when they say that.
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