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Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by aaron695 »

kgin wrote: post #12
aaron695 wrote: post #3

Top tweet reply Twitter fed me was on point - Replying to @rustlang "The world is bigger than just the USA." There are a lot of problems in the world, Syria pops into mind or a billion people who can't fully feed their kids. But they are not a viral Twitter sensation. Gotta be 'cool'

I'm not sure what the problem is. No one can be can make a statement about any bad thing unless they make statements about about all bad things equally?

How about as part of the tech world you are part of the global community.

If you think "taking a stand against X is more important than sharing tech knowledge" then it needs be well thought out before you shut down your global "sharing tech knowledge" over that issue.

Or people like me think you are just part of the vileness the makes Twitter work where everyone is just part of the lynch mob, without thought jumping on, looking for outrage, and a reason to hurt people rather than help people.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by jodrellblank »

kgin wrote: post #14
jodrellblank wrote: post #11

On what platform will the further notice be given?

Assuming you're still looking at Twitter for reasons other than @rustlang, the notice will be on Twitter when the tweets start again.

This is a "who shaved the barber?" puzzle; that situation should be forbidden by the content of the tweet - they're not allowed to tweet again until after they've given notice.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by ldeangelis »

dx87 wrote: post #15

Not seeing anything similar on /r/rust, or the official forum. This twitter account barely tweets at all, it's like they want to send a message, but don't want to actually inconvenience anybody.

Their pinned thread explains that the account is mainly run by one person https://twitter.com/rustlang/status/1263105810525237248

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by ThrowawayBandit »

aaron695 wrote: post #3

Top tweet reply Twitter fed me was on point - Replying to @rustlang "The world is bigger than just the USA." There are a lot of problems in the world, Syria pops into mind or a billion people who can't fully feed their kids. But they are not a viral Twitter sensation. Gotta be 'cool'

Absolutely, and this occurs all the time. Something happens in the US especially, but perhaps also Western Europe and it is spun into a huge issue. Something worse happens somewhere and it is barely reported, if at all.

This is the sad irony of making a huge fuss of "black lives matters" when really they (or non-Armerican/non-Western) don't. What matters is the American village.

This is virtue-signalling and will actually anger, as it always does, many who are not part of the worthy few.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by searchableguy »

doomrobo wrote: post #8
aaron695 wrote: post #3

Top tweet reply Twitter fed me was on point - Replying to @rustlang "The world is bigger than just the USA." There are a lot of problems in the world, Syria pops into mind or a billion people who can't fully feed their kids. But they are not a viral Twitter sensation. Gotta be 'cool'

If you apply this criterion consistently, nobody would be allowed to protest anything

I interpreted OP in the following way - US influence on tech shoehorn their politics in every other place. If something happens in Syria or other third world countries, it won't get recognition or will inconvenience people outside of their countries. So I am guessing OP is upset about that. I do think US influence on tech to this degree is bad given the recent years and political environment. Most of the web is controlled by US companies and affects people living in other countries.

I have seen a few mobs attacking people from other countries because they couldn't get the current political environment in US. And why would they? They don't live in the US and thus don't get everything happening in US.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by protomyth »

lake99 wrote: post #9

Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

Apparently, whoever is running that account wants to be part of the current thing and making an enemy of China might not be good for Rust's development.

I'm a bit bitter because they haven't given a fig about the minority most likely to be killed by law enforcement than any other racial or ethnic group and even use a license from an organization that domain squats on the very same minority.

[edit: yep same as it ever was]

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by gruez »

lake99 wrote: post #9

Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

Same reason why sectarian violence in the west garners more sympathy than similar amounts of sectarian violence in africa, the middle east, or asia.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by Udik »

lake99 wrote: post #9

Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

There are no reports of people killed by the police in the HK protests.

Source:

U.S. Department of State

https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-country-reports-on-human-...

"There were no credible reports that the government or its agents committed arbitrary or unlawful killings."

Edit: hate to say that, but why instead of clicking the damn downvote button don't you go and actually check if there are recorded deaths?

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by Mirioron »

abstractbeliefs wrote: post #18
dx87 wrote: post #15

Not seeing anything similar on /r/rust, or the official forum. This twitter account barely tweets at all, it's like they want to send a message, but don't want to actually inconvenience anybody.

I agree - it's the definition of pandering: it serves no higher purpose than to gratify some group of people, without serving any deeper meaning. I would like to know in what way this will actually influence change. Don't get me wrong, sincere displays of solidarity matter, but this isn't one. It's an effortless token gesture.

I view it as simply spreading the message.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Post by afiori »

doomrobo wrote: post #8
aaron695 wrote: post #3

Top tweet reply Twitter fed me was on point - Replying to @rustlang "The world is bigger than just the USA." There are a lot of problems in the world, Syria pops into mind or a billion people who can't fully feed their kids. But they are not a viral Twitter sensation. Gotta be 'cool'

If you apply this criterion consistently, nobody would be allowed to protest anything

If I may this does not apply here. The tweet was formulated as "Since issue X is more important than our tweets etc." so the criticism of "Also issue Y was more important" is not baseless.

This would not apply if they just supported the cause, or even decided to join the protest. For how international it can be the rust organization is intrinsically based in the US so it is understandable why they might want to make a statement about the current events.

Nevertheless the criticism has a basis in how the tweet was formulated, as the way it was written transforms a perfectly reasonable position of "we cannot and shouldn't fight every battle" into "that other issue was less important".

I would say this was a case where a bad argument was worse than no argument.

Just to repeat myself one more time if the tweet was only "In support of current protests we chose to stop tweeting until further notice" then your comment would be completely right.

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