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Re: US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance drone over Minneapolis

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Post by vsl »

kitotik wrote: post #376
leereeves wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When cops who choke a white person to death aren't charged, there's far less outrage. For example, David Glen Ward was killed by a police choke hold six months ago. The deputy responsible was fired, but no charges have been filed. https://www.kqed.org/news/11818476/deputies-blunt-force-neck...

Not trying to justify the cops killing that guy, but it’s a pretty different scenario for at least a couple reasons: 1) The guy was armed and leading a high speed chase 2) I don’t think there is a long, long, documented history of cops murdering the unarmed white guys without any real consequence

So how about these?

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266715217398030336

There does seem to be bias in media coverage and therefore society outrage or lack thereof.

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Post by asldfhasdf2 »

heelix wrote: post #409
neckardt wrote: post #397

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How do you acquire 10k sacks of sand on such short notice? Also, how much does that cost?

The sacks were pretty easy to order. You would have a dump truck come out and leave a pile of sand on the driveway. From there, you basically shovel/fill sacks like mad and either place them on your wall or put them someplace heated. Next day you would order another truck of sand. A stupid amount of manpower was involved. Entire high school football team came over to help fill on one of the days. The entire city basi…

> By the time the third major flood happened - we were ready.

i was expecting to see a raised home on the pic, not a better way to fill sandbags. oh well.

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Post by asldfhasdf2 »

cinquemb wrote: post #414
Roboprog wrote: post #392

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Ok, so that’s a real thing, and not just a Charles Stross / Laundry Files reference. I guess it’s not too surprising that you would want to keep an eye out for rioting. Missiles would be a whole new level of messed up, though.

> Missiles would be a whole new level of messed up, though. Of course they'll eventually call them "non lethal payloads" :P The interesting things that could be done when you have a line of sight to these things, a little bit of knowledge of RF modulation and have nothing left to lose…

from the wikipedia article linked above:

> Philadelphia Police Department Lt. Frank Powell proceeded to drop two one-pound bombs (which the police referred to as "entry devices"[31]) made of FBI-supplied Tovex

Re: US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance drone over Minneapolis

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Post by tathougies »

CryptoBanker wrote: post #443
tathougies wrote: post #91

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> Everyone has a breaking point - republicans were about to riot over wearing a mask to protect their families; these people are rioting over being murdered and ignored. There was a republican protest over COVID where there was mass theft, looting, and arson?

Armed white men stormed Michigan's state Capitol if you don't remember. The only reason there was no violence is because the police were ordered to stand down. See the difference?

Stormed the capitol? You mean entered the capitol building -- as is your right as a citizen? Having a gun is not violence.

And, while police can certainly instigate violence, I find it difficult to believe that someone had to steal a TV from target or loot the apple store (as happened in portland) because the police instigated them to.

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Post by panda88888 »

kec wrote: post #21
king_magic wrote: post #7

I don't really see the issue here with a surveillance drone to help keep the peace. I don't really care if it's "military technology" or not. Look, what happened was absolutely awful. People have a right to protest - and should, but peacefully. Riots, looting, burning buildings? Sorry, that's going to far. If the government starts firing rockets at people from that drone - well that's another story. But that is clear…

Predator drones can carry multiple air to ground missiles and guided bombs. This is the same model of drone which is used for drone strikes in the Middle East. There is no reasonable reason for a domestic civilian agency to own or use these drones over US soil vs models which are incapable of carrying armament.

CBP drones do not carry missiles. There are definitely reasons to use the predator drone vs non-armament capable drones. One such reason is cost. The predator drone Is lower cost and has much better performance to cost ratio compared to other options, such as Northrop Grumman global hawk.

Re: US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance drone over Minneapolis

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Post by heelix »

asldfhasdf2 wrote: post #452
heelix wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sacks were pretty easy to order. You would have a dump truck come out and leave a pile of sand on the driveway. From there, you basically shovel/fill sacks like mad and either place them on your wall or put them someplace heated. Next day you would order another truck of sand. A stupid amount of manpower was involved. Entire high school football team came over to help fill on one of the days. The entire city basi…

> By the time the third major flood happened - we were ready. i was expecting to see a raised home on the pic, not a better way to fill sandbags. oh well.

https://goo.gl/maps/aF44Afshj81FLvLw6

If you look at the aerial view, you can spot the neighbors homes that did not make it and the edge of the city dike now in the back yard. Many houses flooded. Heartbreaking when you saw folks trying to have a fire truck flood their failing dike with clean water rather than have the sewage/etc fill the house.

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