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Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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This would hit harder if you mentioned where you work -- i.e., on whose behalf you're deciding not to hire devs with FB on their resumes.

Would it actually be helpful? Or are you just baiting to get OP fired?

I think it would be helpful because OP's post smells a lot like sanctimonious grandstanding.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Who wants to work for a company where they're living in constant fear of being outed as a non-leftist and losing their job? I get the frequent recruiting emails from FB and (much less frequently) Google, but am really too afraid to pursue them.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. I can't imagine working for either company, especially in SV. I would be walking on eggshells lest someone hear, or overhear, something 'toxic' and my career gets ruined. It'd be safer to just not talk to anybody, or limit conversations to work topics only. That's an awful work environment. My demographic would make me a target, not a colleague.

FYI: At this point, he's probably in part being voted down because he's complaining about being voted down.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

> People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? This is a strange inversion. I would guess that most of the disgruntled FB employees want a transparent review system with rules that are applied consistently, with exactly zero intervention from Mark Zuckerberg.

But not everyone is the same, in this particular case: the president of a sovereign nation is held to different rules. As the president it's in the interest of the people he serves (and as an American company FB operates at the pleasure of those same people) that he is allowed to communicate with them through whatever means are available. Sure you want no violent messages to spread but what if he declared war on another country, should he be banned from FB if he ever posted about it? It's about as violent as it can get.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

> People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? I think you have it backwards. He has explicitly decided to not delete a post, rather than leaving this decision to a more majoritarian and just mechanism. "Facebook employees critical of CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s decision not to remove an inflammatory comment from U.S. President Donald Trump took their dissent public over…

> That should not be his job.

Absolutely it should be his job. He is responsible for the direction of Facebook, and is probably reading the winds of change that have been blown up by Twitter. With the possibility of Section 230 repeal in the offing, Facebook needs to decide now whether they will be a publisher or platform.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

Passing judgment on thousands of employees like this is really no better either, you are just imposing your own morals on them.

If their morals are incompatible with yours, then its fair game to pass judgement on them and not hire them or urge others (who have to make their own moral decision on it) not to (or as the commentor is stating: to consider hiring others first). Nobody has to follow what this commentor is saying, if they disagree.

Personally, I question people’s moral judgement if they work for a company I deem evil and will dissassociate with them. Why wouldn’t I? Others with different values can do differently.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who wants to work for a company where they're living in constant fear of being outed as a non-leftist and losing their job? I get the frequent recruiting emails from FB and (much less frequently) Google, but am really too afraid to pursue them.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. I can't imagine working for either company, especially in SV. I would be walking on eggshells lest someone hear, or overhear, something 'toxic' and my career gets ruined. It'd be safer to just not talk to anybody, or limit conversations to work topics only. That's an awful work environment. My demographic would make me a target, not a colleague.

> limit conversations to work topics only. That's an awful work environment.

Ok, maybe it's because I'm older (but not a boomer), but I don't think that's an awful work environment.

I use dinner party rules on social media and at the workplace. That means I avoid talking about politics, religion, etc. It's not because I'm afraid of being outed for my views or anything, it's because I look at work as work, and not a place to socialize or broadcast my views.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #109

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Passing judgment on thousands of employees like this is really no better either, you are just imposing your own morals on them.

Ah the "I was just doing my job" defense.

No, not at all. Don’t get me wrong, I myself would not work at Facebook because of my _own_ morals. But I draw a line between what I believe in and how I project those beliefs onto others.

If there’s a thing I’ve learned in life is that reality is extremely nuanced and passing blanket judgements like the above is almost always bound to be wrong.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

We really need to make a list of all the people who are bastards, just to keep it straight. So far we have all Cops, Facebook employees, Google employees (or is it just some). Would be a handy reference.

this is a joke

Oh and phone company employees we are the worst :-)

"We don’t care. We don’t have to. We’re the Phone Company."

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #7

People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

Big words for a hiring manager at some small worthless company building a glorified CRUD app.
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