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Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not FAANG just a concerned contributor who gets to work with them daily and was watching this unfold while getting tear gassed standing in drum circles this weekend. Unless this is about G attacking FBers, yeah, that has been fun to watch. As usual the FB'ers are pretty silent about everything. Couple of "hi i work for fb and want to leave what should i do" posts but that was all I really saw.

I'm concerned for someone who has so much wrongly placed anger... dude you're all worked up about Facebook for no reason, get real they aren't the enemy

I just threw an off the wall mention that I was out protesting and getting tear gas shot at me this weekend and you're commenting that my anger toward FB is misplaced?

Huh, wonder why I'm worked up.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

#82
post #7

People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

Honestly, you're the person I wouldn't hire. Judging large swaths of people with no nuance for their individual situations. Now what does that remind me of... The selective outrage against Facebook for police brutality is something to behold. Facebook didn't exist during the lynchings of the 20th century or any number of race riots. You telling me things are somehow worse now that social media exists. Check your peop…

You act like stereotypes are completely inaccurate.

Do Apple users generally care about open source? Do they care about quality hardware? Are Apple users Nerds?

Sure you can find an exception, but when you compare to the majority of users, you can find similarities.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

#83

People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

Uh, no ones post got deleted, twitter just took the microphone away (limited sharing & comments, but anyone can go read the post).

Otherwise, thoughts don’t occur in a vacuum, they’re informed by the information that people receive. If you’re trying to be an information platform and a thought sharing platform, then there’s a huge vector for misinformation. I can understand a difference of opinion and nuance but acting like there’s no problem here is just head in the sand at this point.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

#84
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, you're the person I wouldn't hire. Judging large swaths of people with no nuance for their individual situations. Now what does that remind me of... The selective outrage against Facebook for police brutality is something to behold. Facebook didn't exist during the lynchings of the 20th century or any number of race riots. You telling me things are somehow worse now that social media exists. Check your peop…

Sorry, I might have misunderstood, but did you just equate choosing to work at Facebook with being black?

I'm really reaching to understand how you could interpret my comment that way. I'm equating judging large swaths of people in the way the parent does as equivalent to society assuming black people "deserve" what they get.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's pretty clear the point of the comment was the lack of ethics in pursuit of money. Not everybody wants to work at places like that, or with people like that. What's the point in them bringing technical expertise to your environment if they poison the culture with their amorality and venality? Money isn't everything, some of us know that, some of us don't care. Assuming the premise, natch. :)

The post was much shorter when I responded and the technical bit was a more significant part of it. I totally get the other points, but they stand on their own.

This is the kind of discussion I love to see! I do wish the top comment showed that it was edited to make it more clear.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

#86
post #3

This is part of the circle of life for internal Facebook turmoil: 10 Facebook does something to draw ire 20 Employee drama 30 The company leadership offers some platitudes to buy time 40 GOTO 10

5. (Optional) Establish some Oversight Council or Committee, to be disenfranchised, dissolved, or declawed at the company's earliest convenience.

Earliest convenience? It hasn't even started yet and they appointed 40 people to it. It was designed as an exercise to try and prove that people can't agree on what's unacceptable.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

they already censor what you say by using an algorithm to weight posts

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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... Zuckerberg's instincts are 100% correct. I don't understand why people (usually democrats and the left now, but it could be right-wing evangelicals in the future) are pushing for social media companies to wade into the quagmire of politics. Twitter's 'fact check' of Trump's tweet is a perfect example of what happens if you try. Their fact check was wrong because it missed nuance and context of issues with mail-in ballots (as in, there is potential for fraud with related actions like 'vote harvesting'), and it pissed off people (not just Trump supporters) because it was ad hoc and arbitrary because you can easily find Democratic politicians making erroneous statements. Almost everything a politician will say is wrong in some way and from a certain perspective and having minimum wage Twitter reviewers be the arbiters of how political speech should be interpreted and in which way is a recipe for disaster.

The "Citizen's United" ruling came around when the FCC tried to enforce rules against political speech arbitrarily when they decided a right-wing documentary critical of Hillary was deemed to break election laws, but Micheal Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 (which was also purposely designed to influence election) was not. And you know what, that is unfair. There is no universe in which it is fair that Moore's documentary gets to be exempted but a right-wing group's documentary doesn't. And because of the arbitrary politically-motived actions of the FCC, we ended up with completely unchecked election spending.

Get tech companies out of politics. If not, it will blow up in your face.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

#90
post #40

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> but filter out anyone whose social media indicates them as being left-ish. Hiring based on political beliefs, or in this case, presumed political beliefs, sounds like a dangerous road to go down. And I am saying this as a young, STEM-educated person who skews left.

At least in EU, discriminating based on political beliefs goes against art. 21 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. Pardon my ignorance but, is that allowed in the US?

Political beliefs are not a protected class in the US.
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