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Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

codethief wrote: post #300

I wish the site contained more than just the video recordings and presented further information like time & date / location / background story / names / official police report / related news reports etc. Right now I could simply dress up as police officer and stage such a video. I'm not at all saying this is happening, I'm just saying it'd be possible to do that. With fake news as well claims of things being fake new…

Hi, thanks for the feedback. Some people that saw this post offered their help last night and as a result the site has been updated to contain much more information (there couldn't be any less let's face it) about each video.

If you still think there's more information that could be added please say and I will make sure it is listed with each video

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

emerged wrote: post #352
codethief wrote: post #300

I wish the site contained more than just the video recordings and presented further information like time & date / location / background story / names / official police report / related news reports etc. Right now I could simply dress up as police officer and stage such a video. I'm not at all saying this is happening, I'm just saying it'd be possible to do that. With fake news as well claims of things being fake new…

The site relies on that lack of contrasting data and authentication (at least, objectively it can be argued).

Hi, I certainly don't want this to be the case and as such the site has been updated with a lot more information about each video. Still this may not be enough so if you think there is anything else that can be added please say and I will ensure that the website is updated.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

relaxing wrote: post #377
h3cate wrote: post #272

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That's the part I personally cannot wrap my head around with all of this. These people are the people they are paid to protect. The people who live in their own communities. Yet they are carrying out these acts like they're in a foreign country.

Part of the problem is they usually don’t live in the communities with the people they police, they live outside the city in affluent white suburbs. Residency requirements are easily circumvented.

Yeah I can see how that could be a problem. Maybe it should be enforced that at least one officer in every pair should live in the community they're policing? It's not for me however to decide on rules/solutions

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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downerending wrote: post #310
h3cate wrote: post #268

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Sadly this was one case. There are many others across the globe that happen and nobody is ever held accountable

It's pedantic, but we do that here: it's certainly not the case that nobody is ever held accountable, at least when speaking of criminal behavior by the police. If you want people to listen, speak carefully. Some police acts enrage me, for sure. Really. At the same time, the rioter behavior we've seen in the last three days might be worse than the sum total of all of that. And I know that the police have to deal with…

Yeah sorry I think my grammar wasn't perfect there. What I meant was there are a lot of other cases of police brutality in which nobody is help accountable in that individual case.

I agree with you completely that the rioter behaviour is appalling. I feel like I have seen just as bad as the things on this site from rioters and it deeply saddens me. I am confident however that those rioters that do stoop to the ultimate lows including attacking store owners will be punished to the full extent of the law.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

emerged wrote: post #359
downerending wrote: post #246

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I agree that the situation should continue to be improved. I doubt that websites like this will help. Riots will definitely not help. The cause of righteousness has been set back a generation in a few days.

It seems likely that many people who were not previously racist have become racist after witnessing these riots. I keep asking people the question -- if all racism was cured, if it no longer existed, and all police behaved 100% innocently, except 1 white cop who kills 1 black man -- what is the proper response? Burning down cities? Concluding systemic racism?

If somebody takes a life for an unjust reason they should be punished however the law defines the punishment. Whether you're police or not, nobody is above the law.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by austincheney »

scarface74 wrote: post #361
austincheney wrote: post #356

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That looks like New York specific stuff. As I have never been there my knowledge and interest of those conditions is absent. So I looked it up for my state: https://www.superlawyers.com/texas/article/stop-and-frisk-in... Here it seems to be related almost entirely to traffic stops. I suspect, but don’t know, that racial identity would play a lesser role in that case because an officer wouldn’t likely known a driver’s…

Really? You don’t think that police could look in a window and tell? We aren’t talking about anecdotes. We have statistics. And these are the types of excuses White people make to justify and to gloss over problems. Here are similar statistics for Florida. https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/new-evidence-r... And GA. https://www.wabe.org/study-3-ga-locations-black-latino-drive... But you really think racial…

You were talking about stop and frisk opposed to racial profiling more specifically. So I looked that up and it looks like Texas has already achieved transparency on that matter: https://www.tcole.texas.gov/content/racial-profiling-reports

Transparency is the only way to root out actual and suspected corruption. It’s not a cure but a required prerequisite.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

downerending wrote: post #221
Eyas wrote: post #167

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Is there an okay percentage of brutality by police? When a failure in the system happens, it needs to be magnified, studied, dissected, and the system must evolve to make sure it doesn't happen again. This is how we have safer nuclear plants, airplanes, etc. And in human systems too: coal miners and people on oil rigs have adopted new protocols to help their workers be more safe. The police is not immune. One act of…

Failures of the system should very much be analyzed and corrected. This site doesn't appear to have that goal.

I would like this site to ultimately aid with that end goal. A website however cannot send somebody to jail for a crime that they have committed. It can however hold information and inform people about crimes that may of been committed.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

pstuart wrote: post #288
h3cate wrote: post #31

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I'm interested to hear more of your ideas around this

* Require police to be self-insured, backed by their pension plan * Refactor qualified immunity for police work (no more carte blanche) * Legalize all drugs (tax and regulate, treat abuse as a medical issue) * Legalize and (and regulate the hell out of it) sex work * National LEO database to prevent bad cops from moving one county over * National guidelines and certification of police behavior (a Geneva convention of…

Personally I agree with all of those points however I know there is a lot of passion on both sides of the argument for most of those points. Hopefully one day soon we will start to see meaningful change

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

peanut_is_yum wrote: post #328

The brutality in those videos goes beyond what I thought possible. Driving through crowds, beating little girls, trampling on a protester with your horse... speechless. I thank the internet for making me aware of this.

It's really harrowing to see these things happening. I know that they go on around the world but it's always been easier to ignore but I feel like as citizens of a now connected world we can't let this brutality continue.
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