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Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #294

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6 paragraphs, 0 answers as to whether George Floyd deserved the form of justice you would extend to his murders or why he got an extrajudicial execution instead. If there weren't riots, the topic would be whether to charge the direct murderer. Because of the riots, the discussion has shifted to charging his accomplices. This is progress, but not enough progress. And yes, I definitely want to see them convicted. If th…

huh, I've never seen someone try to wave a bloody shirt quite like that. Well I don't want to make you count too many sentences before you get to my magic chant: I disavow all non-people-of-color (including police officers, soldiers, census takers, BBC licence fee collectors - especially those with internalized racism) and, in response to their atrocities, now identify as a left handed 86 year old black lesbian woman…

>Name one example of this strategy succeeding

Uhm... when the 3rd precinct got burned down and George Floyd's murderer faced charges the next day? Cops don't normally face charges for murdering black men in broad daylight, so I don't take the timing of arson and charges as coincidence.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Why do all these complicated things? Just draw a black box over faces.

Because the result is a lot more ugly. Don't tell people what not to do. Figure out why they're doing it, and provide what they actually want while still achieving the goals (here: security). Very coarse mosaic, add noise, then blur seems reasonably safe, and doesn't have to look like crap.

"seems reasonably safe" seems like a terrible cryptographic analysis. in fact, given that we already know that both blurring and mosaicing are individually reversible, and noise is easily removable from a sufficiently wide mosaic, this seems like a particularly terrible algorithm. that's not the point though: any man can create an encryption algorithm that he himself cannot break. maybe you can come up with an obfuscation algorithm that cannot be trivially broken, but that doesn't mean it's even remotely a good idea.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Yup, I'd love if we were able to be a unified front and collectively say the mayhem will not stop until all four involved are charged. And if they're not convicted... 1992 will look like a joke.

aaugustt says> "And if they're not convicted... 1992 will look like a joke." So what if a jury finds them innocent, which is highly likely? What do you mean "1992 will look like a joke"?

"1992" refers to the riots in LA which were triggered by the acquittal of four police officers who were caught on tape beating Rodney King.

I assume the GP means the civil unrest that will happen if there is an acquittal would be much worse than the LA riots.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #294

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huh, I've never seen someone try to wave a bloody shirt quite like that. Well I don't want to make you count too many sentences before you get to my magic chant: I disavow all non-people-of-color (including police officers, soldiers, census takers, BBC licence fee collectors - especially those with internalized racism) and, in response to their atrocities, now identify as a left handed 86 year old black lesbian woman…

>Name one example of this strategy succeeding Uhm... when the 3rd precinct got burned down and George Floyd's murderer faced charges the next day? Cops don't normally face charges for murdering black men in broad daylight, so I don't take the timing of arson and charges as coincidence.

Have you got an actual example? I don't even need to get into the race statistics with regard to police brutality, because the charges aren't even close to settling the matter - and you know it, you've already declared them murderers.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #182

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> If we are to trust the cops again, they need to show us they are worthy of trust. And they sure aren’t doing that right now. What I've seen in the past 2 days is that the police are doubling down on being oppressors, not public servants. I expect it to get much worse before it (possibly) gets better. And it may not get better.

This is not fair at all. Protest turned to riots, literally burning down police stations. Police action wasn't until much later, and they were perfectly fine with the daytime, civil unrest. During the evening, the 'protestors' went home and the agitators came out to fight police, and that's that. When people are looting every store on a street, the police have no choice but to physically move in. There are very few o…

Let's talk about these instances of police violence then [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. You can pick any one of them. What is the police's justification for them, other than to further confirm how much of a police state we live in.

[1] https://twitter.com/imactuallynina/status/126691262719377408...

[2] https://www.businessinsider.com/nypd-officer-shoves-woman-ge...

[3] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/minneapolis-protests-p...

[4] https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225

[5] https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1266384227492335616

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #274

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The point is clear the police withdrawing has not improved things. The solution clearly lies elsewhere. And the 2015 riots did not make anything better.

Well, now you're just reiterating things you've already said and failed to support the first time. I guess that means we're done here.

I showed the crime rates went up after the riots because the police have stopped actively cleaning up crime. You never showed how the supporting evidence is wrong, nor why my inference was incorrect. You mainly nitpicked insignificant details. I would be genuinely interested if you can show violent riots have made life better for law abiding citizens in Baltimore.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #239

Really weird that nobody in the thread is pointing out that this is basically a website that says "give me your photos, specifically from protests, which have details that you want to keep private". It doesn't matter that it theoretically all happen in the browser. You can serve different versions to different IPs etc. Every heuristic in me would be screaming don't use that if I would have a need for such tool.

It's a simple static site with no server involved. Everything happens client side. You could turn off your internet while you're using it if you wanted to make sure no data is exposed.

A bad actor could selectively serve a different version to those they want to target.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #239

Really weird that nobody in the thread is pointing out that this is basically a website that says "give me your photos, specifically from protests, which have details that you want to keep private". It doesn't matter that it theoretically all happen in the browser. You can serve different versions to different IPs etc. Every heuristic in me would be screaming don't use that if I would have a need for such tool.

Imagine how much scarier it would be if it wanted to run code natively on your machine, outside the browser sandbox.

I have a many sandbox and virtualization tools at my disposal that are both more comprehensive and flexible than a browser sandbox.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #239

Really weird that nobody in the thread is pointing out that this is basically a website that says "give me your photos, specifically from protests, which have details that you want to keep private". It doesn't matter that it theoretically all happen in the browser. You can serve different versions to different IPs etc. Every heuristic in me would be screaming don't use that if I would have a need for such tool.

Isn't this the same issue as with a website like HIBP, and other sites that appear after a data breach/leak?

Users are disclosing to the website what they hope has not been discovered by someone else -- e.g., usernames and email addresses, or in this case photos, they hoped to keep private. Unfortunately, the website is "someone else".

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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post #262

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I opened https://github.com/everestpipkin/image-scrubber/issues/5 to discuss how to encourage people to use this tool responsibly. Please contribute your knowledge!

Do you really think that altered in any way images without any exif can hold someone accountable? Even videos can not be trusted nowadays.

Yes. There is a very low bar to pass to convince a jury that a defendent is guilty. 99% conviction rates should scare you.
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