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A collection of videos of police brutality

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Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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The outrage started not because of the video that was undisputable evidence of police violence, it started because the police did not immediately arrest the officers who committed and helped with the murder of a person. Had Minneapolis have to burn to the ground, so that they finally arrest the murderer policeman?

Ignoring for a moment that the position the police had George in is standard for restraining a person and that George may have died from underlying heart conditions... Without the broader narrative that police disproportionately kill blacks then the killing would not have sparked riots or protests. In fact a white man was killed very recently on almost the exact same manner yet there were no riots or calls to action.…

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just very misinformed, but the position he was held in violates every single rule of police training on restraining individuals.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Here's a pretty good list I've been seeing passed around Reddit with ~20 incidents of police brutalizing peaceful protestors in the last couple days: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu3s6j/poli... The list is growing by the hour. Cops in America need to learn very quickly that their power comes only from the consent of the people they police, or they will be made to understand that fact.

That's the part I personally cannot wrap my head around with all of this. These people are the people they are paid to protect. The people who live in their own communities. Yet they are carrying out these acts like they're in a foreign country.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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I wish that were true, but the complete history of policing in America suggests that the police there exist primarily to protect the land and facilities of the ownership class, and have never had nor needed any consent of those outside of the gentry. The more recent history suggests that the people who wish to deter or educate the cops are significantly outgunned, and the brutality will continue until such time that…

> The more recent history suggests that the people who wish to deter or educate the cops are significantly outgunned Then these young people (in the U.S.) should stop fighting for gun control when it only works against them in times such as these. Can you imagine how these protesters would be treated if most of them were carrying a rifle? Could the police roll out tanks in response? Sure, but I do not believe the U.S…

> Can you imagine how these protesters would be treated if most of them were carrying a rifle?

Can you imagine what these 'protests' would be like with Antifa thugs bearing rifles instead of the usual clubs, slings and other such paraphernalia? You'd have shoot-outs between them and other militia, often equally fascist in nature but being less dishonest about it by not stating that they are 'anti' fascist. No, this is not the way to solve these problems.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Is there an okay percentage of brutality by police? When a failure in the system happens, it needs to be magnified, studied, dissected, and the system must evolve to make sure it doesn't happen again. This is how we have safer nuclear plants, airplanes, etc. And in human systems too: coal miners and people on oil rigs have adopted new protocols to help their workers be more safe. The police is not immune. One act of…

Failures of the system should very much be analyzed and corrected. This site doesn't appear to have that goal.

Isn't documenting the failures the important first steps? When people seem to deny that these failures exist, deny their frequency, deny how horrific some of those failures are, etc.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.

While I suspect the percentage of overall police actions that are brutal, unethical, or harmful are tiny it is still a subject that demands a far greater degree of transparency. The subject identifies several challenges: * police are falsely accused of bad behavior frequently, which can make it much harder to identify the actual extreme few bad apples which need to be identified and removed * all accused are innocent…

police are falsely accused of bad behavior frequently, which can make it much harder to identify the actual extreme few bad apples which need to be identified and removed

If the problem isn’t systemic then how do you explain the various studies showing that minorities are disproportionately “stopped and frisked”?

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.

Just so I understand, how are the 2 related? You seem to suggest that the "protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head" are criminals. I agree, they likely are. By those terms then all of the police officers kicking downed protesters are criminals as well. Why are their fellow officers not arresting them on the spot? There is a very large difference between random protesters committing violent acts an…

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Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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It would be cool to have a top ten worst police jurisdictions for brutality

I like to think that this isn't a whole jurisdiction problem and more an individual one.

Statistics about racial profiling and systemic problems with hiding police misconduct shows something different.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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This post was number one on HN. Now it’s nowhere to be found on HN’s pages unless you search for it. I happen to remember the posters handle and was able to dig up the post. The post is not even flagged back so am curious why did it disappear?

Haha wow I wouldn't of expected that from hn! It's bought me time to fix the site so I don't mind too much but this only reinforces my belief in the need for the site. It's too easy for information to be hidden on the web

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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This post was number one on HN. Now it’s nowhere to be found on HN’s pages unless you search for it. I happen to remember the posters handle and was able to dig up the post. The post is not even flagged back so am curious why did it disappear?

It's been flagged to oblivion so as not to pierce HN's tender bubble. Should have mentioned which JS framework was used to build the site so the post would stay on the front page.

Haha sadly, there's no JS. I would load vue though if that meant they wouldn't bury the thread..

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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post #254

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Agree. I wish this stayed on reddit and Twitter. I hate seeing this kind of hot topic stuff here.

Whilst I would usually agree I feel like the technology community as a whole can do a lot in the fight against injustice in this world. I understand your sentiment though and will not post again.

I tend to not overanalyze an individual post or comment I make relative to how HN votes on it, except when I get downvotes. I try to see how I could have had the wrong tone; HN has a very narrow sense of acceptable, topical humor, for instance. Certain topics or sources of information are not correctly framed; marketing pages of a new startup on a Show HN are less likely to make FP than a novel technical writeup from the engineering or development team.

Just read the HN rules and comments dang makes when he moderates and you’ll see that HN is actually one of the most accepting online communities around if you can internalize the reason HN exists and what differentiates it from other discussion sites online.

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