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A collection of videos of police brutality

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Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by downerending »

Eyas wrote: post #167
downerending wrote: post #124

As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.

Is there an okay percentage of brutality by police? When a failure in the system happens, it needs to be magnified, studied, dissected, and the system must evolve to make sure it doesn't happen again. This is how we have safer nuclear plants, airplanes, etc. And in human systems too: coal miners and people on oil rigs have adopted new protocols to help their workers be more safe. The police is not immune. One act of…

Failures of the system should very much be analyzed and corrected. This site doesn't appear to have that goal.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by scarmig »

GiorgioG wrote: post #193
sneak wrote: post #153

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I wish that were true, but the complete history of policing in America suggests that the police there exist primarily to protect the land and facilities of the ownership class, and have never had nor needed any consent of those outside of the gentry. The more recent history suggests that the people who wish to deter or educate the cops are significantly outgunned, and the brutality will continue until such time that…

> The more recent history suggests that the people who wish to deter or educate the cops are significantly outgunned Then these young people (in the U.S.) should stop fighting for gun control when it only works against them in times such as these. Can you imagine how these protesters would be treated if most of them were carrying a rifle? Could the police roll out tanks in response? Sure, but I do not believe the U.S…

The idea that the situation would be improved by the protesters being able to shoot police is... Questionable.

The better solution is unarmed police: billions of people live in localities where most police they encounter don't have guns and may not be even authorized to make physical contact in the case of a conflict. The idea that all police must carry guns and must be ready to use violence "to protect us" is one of those assumptions you assume must be universal until you somehow find out that it very particular to certain locations.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

_qbjt wrote: post #119

Thank you for this! Your site might be a good place to signal-boost potential solutions to the problem of police brutality as well. I stumbled across a Twitter thread earlier which has some interesting ideas: https://mobile.twitter.com/samswey/status/118065570127173222...

Thank you for that. I will read through this at some point tonight.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #76
h3cate wrote: post #18

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I think traffic might of killed it. I will upgrade the server it's running on tonight. In answer to your question, all videos on there will stay there for the rest of time. We cannot let this happen now but we certainly can't let it be forgotten either.

Static site this please!

Done and live, hopefully it will be a little more stable now.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by h3cate »

dvtrn wrote: post #34
h3cate wrote: post #18

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I think traffic might of killed it. I will upgrade the server it's running on tonight. In answer to your question, all videos on there will stay there for the rest of time. We cannot let this happen now but we certainly can't let it be forgotten either.

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Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by downerending »

austincheney wrote: post #185
downerending wrote: post #124

As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.

While I suspect the percentage of overall police actions that are brutal, unethical, or harmful are tiny it is still a subject that demands a far greater degree of transparency. The subject identifies several challenges: * police are falsely accused of bad behavior frequently, which can make it much harder to identify the actual extreme few bad apples which need to be identified and removed * all accused are innocent…

I agree that all police should have body cams always, for the protection of all. I'm not aware of anyone that objects to this, though probably there are some.

Furthermore, incidents like this have really made me reconsider my objections to the panopticon. These days, I think we'd be better off if there were cameras everywhere always, broadcasting instantaneously for public capture.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by downerending »

devmunchies wrote: post #172
downerending wrote: post #124

As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.

Agree. I wish this stayed on reddit and Twitter. I hate seeing this kind of hot topic stuff here.

Yeah, I find it hard to resist taking the bait, but this is utterly irrelevant to HN's topics.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by pstuart »

flixic wrote: post #117
pstuart wrote: post #21

Tangentially related: anybody have links for good op-sec guides for creating a site that might make dangerous people pissed off?

If you can rely on audience being quite technical, IPFS is a pretty good, very censorship-resistant approach. There are some IPFS bridges that make viewing content easier. If IPFS is out of the question, I'd look for hosting services that talk openly about being censorship-resistant. Won't give any links, but there are a couple, even if slightly shady looking.

I'm fascinated by IPFS (and plan on using it elsewhere) but I my desire is to have as wide exposure as possible.
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