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I'd be happy to send you the code for the site if that's something you want to setup?
Impressed with the civility of replies to the many people ITT being ‘status quo warriors’. Good work on the website.
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> It's an extremely delicate judgment call made in split seconds that often means the difference between life and death How come cops in many other countries are so much better at making these judgement calls than in the US?
Are they? I prefer to ignore value comparisons not based on numbers.
As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.
> savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head. You're talking about this oft-shared video, I imagine: https://twitter.com/LibertyHangout/status/126692640226952396... Yea, wow, those protesters really did a number on that guy. Obviously he was just defending his shop from Thugs, right? Oh wait... no. He was a crazy person running at protesters with a sword: https://twitter.com/sable_sonya/status/12671483332038000…
The second link doesn't seem to have any video. But head-kicking beyond the point of unconsciousness is not how I would defend myself from a crazy person (if that's even a factual take).
The third link is hard to interpret, but until someone analyzes it, I assume that the people assisting the guy are not the same ones that were committing wanton savagery. But bless them, in any case.
I turned to my wife after seeing the first video and remarked, "These guys just gave the fall election to Trump.". If you're old enough to remember Nixon, you'll take the reference.
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Imagine being asked by your boss to implement such a thing and actually doing it. How spineless and unethical would you have to be to even consider following such an order.
About as spineless and unethical as every other human being. You know how we have some people worth billions and simultaneously people literally digging through garbage for food? That's not an accident, it's a constant built into this species, unless we start doing some eugenics, preventing idiots from breeding, which'll take far longer than your lifetime to come into effect. You interested in attempting to improve t…
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The way I see it, a viral video pops up and there's outrage then two weeks later we're onto the next outrage. I am guilty of this myself and this is why I think it is important to collect this so it isn't forgotten.
> I am guilty of this myself Aren't you the wrong person to catalogue this stuff then?
This post was number one on HN. Now it’s nowhere to be found on HN’s pages unless you search for it. I happen to remember the posters handle and was able to dig up the post. The post is not even flagged back so am curious why did it disappear?
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"Don't believe your lying eyes." https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/video-shows-officer-kicking-wo...
That video is a 5 second long anecdote. Regardless, the woman was probably told to move and was refusing. When you disobey riot police in a riot situation that's what happens and I absolutely side with the police. Data literally supports what I'm saying. A distorting narrative is what's driving all the recent calls to action and solidarity. People are being lied to and misled, either that or they are just using the n…
Had Minneapolis have to burn to the ground, so that they finally arrest the murderer policeman?
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> My understanding is cops kill way more often than they are killed. Well, of course. That's expected isn't it? In an imaginary scenario where police act legitimately 100% of the time there are going to be situations where they have to use lethal force. In the same imagined scenario, there would be 0 legitimate police deaths. If you're just going for some morbid score keeping, you would need to know illegitimate civi…
I don’t understand. Surely in the ideal world nobody would kill anyone else. I’m not sure that’s very realistic, or even relevant to what we should expect from police in the real world.
In my example, I was pointing out that if we remove police corruption from the equation, police would still kill some number of civilians. Because of that fact, the parent's post doesn't make much sense.
Ha. I have a similar type of domain name in my shopping cart... I have another angle for this, which is we have to clearly identify a path where legitimate policing can occur, but aims to end police misconduct systematically.
The officer charged with murdering George Floyd has been charged with police brutality 12 times, and let off with "no discipline" every time [0].
If officers who used excessive force aren't punished, they are taught that their actions were acceptable. I'd like to see calls for punishment in the case of Derek Chauvin, as well as for any use of excessive violence. I think convicting Derek Chauvin for murder would set a new standard for police conduct that could prevent similar acts of excessive violence from happening in the future.
[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/LPOTL/comments/gsespz/derek_chauvin...
Tangentially related: anybody have links for good op-sec guides for creating a site that might make dangerous people pissed off?
Host it here: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ (This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal.) Make it static. Be able to deploy quickly to a new host if need be.
I have only good intentions. Doing something illegal could be shifting rapidly. Trump intends to make antifa a terrorist organization (of which I have zero affiliation and conflicted feelings about). I believe that action is but a taste of what is to come.