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Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by storedbox »

enitihas wrote: post #169
3wolf wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'd probably take the Volkswagen strategy: Team A builds a feature that detects when the device is in a localized area. (This already exists) Team B builds a feature that disables the camera. (I could see this being a parental control) Both features are reasonable by themselves. It's when they are combined that they become an issue. The trick is that Teams A and B don't know of each other's existence.

Someone would have to add their integrations though. The features won't be joined magically together.

I'm sure they can find at least one willing asshole.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

lisper wrote: post #147
Lariscus wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine being asked by your boss to implement such a thing and actually doing it. How spineless and unethical would you have to be to even consider following such an order.

If it was a choice between following the order and being out of a job? Not very, particularly since your sacrifice would almost certainly be in vain.

Depends on how valuable you are. I know people at Google who transferred internally fairly painlessly (i.e. the abridged loop) when they told their skip-levels they were uncomfortable with their work.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by GiorgioG »

sneak wrote: post #153
ciarannolan wrote: post #104

Here's a pretty good list I've been seeing passed around Reddit with ~20 incidents of police brutalizing peaceful protestors in the last couple days: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu3s6j/poli... The list is growing by the hour. Cops in America need to learn very quickly that their power comes only from the consent of the people they police, or they will be made to understand that fact.

I wish that were true, but the complete history of policing in America suggests that the police there exist primarily to protect the land and facilities of the ownership class, and have never had nor needed any consent of those outside of the gentry. The more recent history suggests that the people who wish to deter or educate the cops are significantly outgunned, and the brutality will continue until such time that…

> The more recent history suggests that the people who wish to deter or educate the cops are significantly outgunned

Then these young people (in the U.S.) should stop fighting for gun control when it only works against them in times such as these. Can you imagine how these protesters would be treated if most of them were carrying a rifle?

Could the police roll out tanks in response? Sure, but I do not believe the U.S. politicians would be willing to start all out war between police and civilians.

I don't condone the looting and destruction of property. Having said that the curfews in place are a form of suppression/muzzling the peaceful protesters.

The police have for too long had unchecked power in the U.S. I've always been taught to be respectful and have been treated in kind in my interactions with police (but I am white.) If a cop is having a bad day or he's just a bully, that should not keep bystanders from helping a victim of police brutality with the threat of "assaulting a police officer."

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by augustt »

chrisco255 wrote: post #181

I know this is hard for some people to accept, but the police deal with the worst dregs of society every day so you don't have to. They get pissed on, stabbed, punched in the face, shot, and killed working for less than 1/4 of the pay of many software developers do. We bitch about JavaScript vs Golang while they have to wonder if the next person they pull over for a speeding ticket is going to pull a gun on them. The…

Good thing those good people in the police force are doing everything they can to rat out the bad ones and restore their reputation. Oops.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by pstuart »

CameronNemo wrote: post #103
h3cate wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on the dangerous people you're talking about I suppose

Exactly. IIRC alphabet agencies operate many tor exit nodes.

Among a plethora of other tricks. To be able to evade state-level actors would be the ultimate goal. That may likely be impossible but it would be nice to explore if it could be done.

I have no intention of becoming an "enemy of the state", but I also never imagined I'd be living in this dystopian timeline.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by rolae »

To document with videos is valuable, but I think the site should provide as much context as possible, what I would wish for, show:

  * Date of incident
  * Short description of context
  * Primary source, or at least, where the video was found
  * Media coverage of incident
  * Updates on convictions/official investigations into the incident
  * Official statements / responses
  * linked videos (videos of the same incident, but with other view-angle)
Otherwise it will just be a collection of outrage, if you don't give real data to put things into context.

edit: formatting

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by cm2187 »

komali2 wrote: post #130
loceng wrote: post #77

I think also compiling a list of video and photos of the good police who are joining, supporting police - or protestors who are keeping police safe in certain circumstances - to counterbalance the abuse by reminding people of the humanity. Edit to add for examples: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu5pqj/a_veteran_prot... https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtx9am/the_police_tak... https://www.reddit.com/r/p…

This is great evidence for sending along to your local police chiefs and mayors. I've been harassing the shit out of my local leaders - look at this evidence. Those cities and towns had almost no rioting, no looting, no violence. All because the cops didn't turn up with spartan armor and kick the shit out of peaceful protesters. It really is that easy.

I seriously doubt that the black blocs that have gathered have been triggered by the police outfits.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by loceng »

downerending wrote: post #124

As always, you have to ask, compared to what ? Are the majority of police actions brutality, or only a miniscule fraction? This is the crucial question, and a site like this provides no insight at all. (or so I imagine, since site is down) If you want to fan the flames, though, add a section for protesters savagely kicking unconscious victims in the head.

The problem is the lack of other police officers immediately arresting an officer they just saw abusing people.

Re: A collection of videos of police brutality

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Post by austincheney »

FDSGSG wrote: post #189
chrisco255 wrote: post #181

I know this is hard for some people to accept, but the police deal with the worst dregs of society every day so you don't have to. They get pissed on, stabbed, punched in the face, shot, and killed working for less than 1/4 of the pay of many software developers do. We bitch about JavaScript vs Golang while they have to wonder if the next person they pull over for a speeding ticket is going to pull a gun on them. The…

> It's an extremely delicate judgment call made in split seconds that often means the difference between life and death How come cops in many other countries are so much better at making these judgement calls than in the US?

Are they? I prefer to ignore value comparisons not based on numbers.
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