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Re: This is why I sell beer.

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"These are the same people who started several "Support Japan" websites"

Really? These same people?

No, some of them may have made little charity sites where not even a dime of donations has yet reached Japan - or may ever reach Japan - and that has no relevance to people being douchey at a convention.

Some people.

ETA: If I ever went to SXSW, it'd be for Music, and I'd pay for my damn beer.

Re: This is why I sell beer.

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Not really. I paid $450 for an early bird badge. $100 flight each way from NYC with American/Continental. Couchsurfing for accommodation. Eating free food at parties. It's not that expensive if you plan well.

you are the Bear Grylls of the tech conference circuit

He better drink his own meme.

Re: This is why I sell beer.

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I'm a programmer and I have no idea what SXSW is. My research indicates it has very little to do with programming.

Sorry, we're gonna have to take away your hipster programmer badge :-(

Be careful with it, it's printed on vinyl.

Re: This is why I sell beer.

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Having just come back from SXSW, the (disappointing) hour spent chasing parties is more about a notion of who you should be socializing with than the free drinks. Abandoning the night's most popular venues almost guarantees magic will happen.

Somewhat agree. However, magic will happen almost anywhere with an open bar. ;)

Re: This is why I sell beer.

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Life is too short to drink crappy beer. I know I could buy a six pack for the amount of money I just spent on this "Rochefort 8", but the taste is worth every penny.

Life is too short to drink crappy beer. Therefore, I live in England.

Life is also too short to eat crappy food.

I kid, I kid. I love in Portland, Oregon, and am jealous of your beers that are more than hops + alcohol.

Re: This is why I sell beer.

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Is that you Diogenes?

I know Alexander killed Diogenes in a drunken rage, but that's about it.

You may be thinking of Cleitus. The Diogenes and Alexander story usually ends with Alexander telling his entourage, "If I were not Alexander, I would be Diogenes."

Re: This is why I sell beer.

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a programmer and I have no idea what SXSW is. My research indicates it has very little to do with programming.

Sorry, we're gonna have to take away your hipster programmer badge :-(

No, you can't! I use node.js!

Re: This is why I sell beer.

#60

I love Austin, and spend three months out of the year there. But, I avoid it like the plague during SXSW, especially the tech portion. I spent part of the winter there, and will be arriving back in town in a couple of weeks, just in time for the SXSW people to be gone. SXSW brings nearly everything I don't like about Silicon Valley and Los Angeles and New York to a town that I love and is normally refreshingly free o…

So what are those traits? After all, I'd hate to offend you the next time I visit Austin.

Don't worry about offending me. I won't be there to offend.

But, here's what I hate about SXSW:

The crowds. I generally hate any environment where one pays hundreds or thousands of dollars in order to wait in lines. This is not a failing of SXSW or the people who attend; SXSW has been a great marketing success for its founders. It's just something I don't like, so I make sure I'm not in town when some of the venues I frequent will be packed and prices hiked up for the duration.

It brings swarms of people pushing products and "personal brands" into a town where that sort of thing is not common, even at tech events. People start companies in Austin, but the culture is a different one from Silicon Valley, and I like it that way. But, I like Silicon Valley the way it is, too; it is true to its history and part of its charm. The problem is when you try to shove a square peg into the funny looking blob shape that is Austin culture. I spent three years in Silicon Valley, and I enjoyed most of it. When I first arrived and started attending nerd events, I thought, "I've found my people!" Turned out not to be so much true after a bit more reflection and exposure, and the 38th time I heard someone pitching a revolutionary new travel wiki, or the countless times when someone explained their new product in relation to some other new product I'd never heard of ("So, it's basically a clone of X, but we've added social features!" where X was some company that had existed for two months and had one developer and at least a dozen users and had been mentioned in a comment on TechCrunch by its founder). But, it's a valuable part of American culture and I love that Silicon Valley exists, so I can visit when I want to experience that culture. I love the history of computing and a lot of it happened because of and inside of the valley. Nothing wrong with Silicon Valley, but for me, I have to take it in measured doses.

So, that's the part of the valley that I don't like coming to Austin. I also mentioned LA and New York, and those cultures also infect the entire conference and not just SXSWi.

The thing about LA is that the Next Big Thing is the holy grail...and everyone playing SXSW is trying to convince you they're the Next Big Thing. There are promoters everywhere, people pushing CDs, flogging their particular showcase with flyers and parties, and a huge pile of people telling you what to like. While Austin has more live music per capita than any other place on earth, Austin doesn't normally do the Next Big Thing. Bands sometimes make cool posters, and that's about the extent of their marketing prowess. During SXSW there are hundreds of bands playing every day in Austin, sure, but on any day in Austin there are hundreds of bands playing (6th Street alone has several dozen live music venues, most open 7 days a week, and with two to four bands on the bill). SXSW just means you have to wait in line and pay hundreds of bucks to see them, and fight a trade show crowd gone wild to get a seat or a place near the stage. Which brings us to New York culture...that of exclusion and long lines and stupidly expensive drinks. You don't just get into every show at SXSW, even with the fanciest of wrist bands. You have to wait in line, or know the right people. This, again, is a testament to the success of SXSW. It is a huge event, and the crowds are tremendous. That doesn't mean I have to like it. I've been a live music fan (and a musician) since I was a kid, but I decided very early on that once the crowd reaches a certain size, the experience is remarkably less satisfying. While most of the clubs in the SXSW rotation are small enough and cool enough venues for transcendent live music experiences, the crowd, both in size and in kind, are not.

So, enjoy SXSW. If that's the sort of thing you like, then SXSW is about as much the sort of thing you'd like as anything I can think of. I do not enjoy it, so I'll park in some other city while it's happening. I'm in Flagstaff, AZ this week, and I'll probably spend a couple days at the Grand Canyon, and then maybe pause in Albuquerque, before heading to Austin for another month, or so. Austin should be getting back to normal by the time I arrive.

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