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Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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Are there videos where protesters are beyond acceptable behavior? Rioters? I doubt this is a one way street by any measure.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-bro...

There was some pretty awful things happening on the live streams last night.

I'm surprised by how many people streamed themselves committing crimes. Are they ignorant or just dumb? The police just started taking pictures of everyone

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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Are there videos where protesters are beyond acceptable behavior? Rioters? I doubt this is a one way street by any measure. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-bro... There was some pretty awful things happening on the live streams last night. I'm surprised by how many people streamed themselves committing crimes. Are they ignorant or just dumb? The police just started taking pictures of everyone

I guess you get down voted for not blindly becoming outraged at only one side.

I'm just not about getting myself that emotional ever.

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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Are there videos where protesters are beyond acceptable behavior? Rioters? I doubt this is a one way street by any measure. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-bro... There was some pretty awful things happening on the live streams last night. I'm surprised by how many people streamed themselves committing crimes. Are they ignorant or just dumb? The police just started taking pictures of everyone

There are. But one would hope the police would hold themselves to a higher standard than an angry mob: that's supposedly why we give them weapons. Seeing them lash out at whoever looks at them the wrong way, it's become clear they have no such integrity.

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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United States is a police state. I said it 20 years ago, people laughed. Now you see if for yourself. American police have positioned themselves as the enemy of the people because they see people as their enemy. And the only way to stop the enemy is by applying brute force. If they're doing all this in front of cameras, imagine what they do when nobody is looking.

Whereas in other countries, such as the UK, police are considered civilians in a uniform and behave accordingly.

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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post #14

Are there videos where protesters are beyond acceptable behavior? Rioters? I doubt this is a one way street by any measure. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-bro... There was some pretty awful things happening on the live streams last night. I'm surprised by how many people streamed themselves committing crimes. Are they ignorant or just dumb? The police just started taking pictures of everyone

There are. But one would hope the police would hold themselves to a higher standard than an angry mob: that's supposedly why we give them weapons. Seeing them lash out at whoever looks at them the wrong way, it's become clear they have no such integrity.

More have died in the riots now right?

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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As a veteran this hits me particularly hard. This kind of force goes beyond most uses of force I personally used in Afghanistan and Iraq, actual fighting being the exception. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’d be brought up on charges if we treated nonviolent people the way these videos portray.

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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post #15

United States is a police state. I said it 20 years ago, people laughed. Now you see if for yourself. American police have positioned themselves as the enemy of the people because they see people as their enemy. And the only way to stop the enemy is by applying brute force. If they're doing all this in front of cameras, imagine what they do when nobody is looking. Whereas in other countries, such as the UK, police ar…

How did this come about, is it the consequence of an armed society, or something else unique to Americans?

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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Are there videos where protesters are beyond acceptable behavior? Rioters? I doubt this is a one way street by any measure. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-bro... There was some pretty awful things happening on the live streams last night. I'm surprised by how many people streamed themselves committing crimes. Are they ignorant or just dumb? The police just started taking pictures of everyone

I guess you get down voted for not blindly becoming outraged at only one side. I'm just not about getting myself that emotional ever.

I think you're being downvoted because you're in a thread about police brutality and are attempting to frame this as the fault of the people being brutalized.

Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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It's a tough situation for police too. On one hand, how to you stop those taking advantage of the situation by looting/burning? On the other hand, how do they show tolerance for non-aggressive civil disobedience? Should anyone breaking curfew be subject to rough treatment? Should the police stand idle while people burn and loot? How can peaceful protesters be protected while looters/abusers are using them as shields…

The protests are happening because the police have made a habit of treating the people as the enemy. So policing as usual, with excessive displays of force just because they can get away with it, will do nothing to quell the violence. I think the way forward is let police do what they need to, but also allow the people to prosecute police when they step out of bounds. The current culture of protecting abusers among t…

Yes, this sounds like a workable path to a better future. The prevalence of cameras and incident footage would steer justice in the right direction IMO. Only if police lose the protection from prosecution.

If that happens we’d see how easy things will “fix” themselves, the police will police themselves too

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