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Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by verdverm »

jlokier wrote: post #144
verdverm wrote: post #102

Why does one need to scrub faces from protests images? Does it even matter with the volumn of images being captured? Is it because people are committing more crime than the original offense?

Could it be that sometimes the police, government, etc. will make your life miserable even if you haven't commit a crime because they don't like something you did? Nah. They would never do anything like that. As everyone knows, all police are paragons of moral excellence in every country in the world at all times. Governments have definitely never, ever gone after innocent protesters.

How much worse are the police from other profession?

i.e. how skewed are different professions w.r.t. morals?

Do you think lawyers are worse? Politicians? The Media? Where do police fit into this spectrum?

Are all police bad? What percentage?

(you can close this tag if you wish)

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by anonymousiam »

Timely article, but what about violent criminal activity during protests? Peaceful protests are wonderful and have been very effective throughout history. The protests we've seen for the past few days are not helping anything. Yes, people are angry at the criminal behavior of the police officer/murderer, but manifesting that anger by destroying property, looting, injuring, and threatening others, is only going to justify the use of more police violence.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by DenisM »

Uehreka wrote: post #124
hangphyr wrote: post #106

The timing of the release of this tool seems a bit innapropriate, given the state of rioting in a few US cities now. It's going to be incredibly draining on law enforcement in the US for a few years to identify and prosecute criminals involved in riots. Most victims already who have lost their homes, their businesses, and even their loved ones will mostly likely never see the criminals brought to justice given the sc…

It would be nice if our law enforcement had legitimacy and credibility, because then we could know that showing someone’s face would lead to them being arrested and facing a sentence commensurate with what they had done. But unfortunately this is not the case. Showing the face of a protestor smashing in a window will not lead to that protestor being brought to court and handed a sentence for community service, a fine…

>a protestor smashing in a window will not lead to that protestor being brought to court and handed a sentence for community service, a fine, or some light jail time. It will lead to extrajudicial retaliation and possibly death.

Would you like to provide an example of someone being killed for smashing a window?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by asutekku »

anonymousiam wrote: post #152

Timely article, but what about violent criminal activity during protests? Peaceful protests are wonderful and have been very effective throughout history. The protests we've seen for the past few days are not helping anything. Yes, people are angry at the criminal behavior of the police officer/murderer, but manifesting that anger by destroying property, looting, injuring, and threatening others, is only going to jus…

I’ll just play the devil’s advocate, but when have peaceful protests ever helped the cause? Those are forgotten as soon as they are over.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by yters »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #150
yters wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the facts supporting your claim?

This definitely seems like a good faith attempt to litigate the history of black oppression in the USA from first principles.

I am not aware of facts supporting the claim that african americans live under an authoritarian regime.

I am aware that a number of african americans have been unjustly killed by police. That is a different claim than african americans are systematically oppressed by the US government.

For instance, compare what is happening in the US to a real authoritarian regime such as the USSR. The government made millions of innocent civilians disappear into the gulags en masse. Try to imagine even the hint of due process, let alone rioting and protests, within that regime.

Or compare what is happening here vs what is happening in China. The CCP places millions of Uighurs into concentration camps for no reason. In the US, we have thousands rioting violently in the streets, and I suspect the majority of the rioters will see little to no consequences for their actions.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by jlokier »

eanzenberg wrote: post #137
michaelt wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that this is a protest about cops getting away with brutality even when there's clear evidence I think "gather evidence against both sides equally" is unlikely to be convincing argument to protesters.

“Getting away with” Who is getting away with what? They are under arrest right now. Or do you want them dragged through the streets?

> They are under arrest right now.

One of the four officers is charged.

With a lesser charge than some are calling for (third-degree instead of first-degree murder).

I don't think the other three officers are under arrest right now. Some people regard them as involved and getting off too lightly so far.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by anonymousiam »

asutekku wrote: post #154
anonymousiam wrote: post #152

Timely article, but what about violent criminal activity during protests? Peaceful protests are wonderful and have been very effective throughout history. The protests we've seen for the past few days are not helping anything. Yes, people are angry at the criminal behavior of the police officer/murderer, but manifesting that anger by destroying property, looting, injuring, and threatening others, is only going to jus…

I’ll just play the devil’s advocate, but when have peaceful protests ever helped the cause? Those are forgotten as soon as they are over.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/gandhi-leads-civ... https://time.com/5101740/martin-luther-king-peaceful-protest...

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by [deleted] »

anonymousiam wrote: post #152

Timely article, but what about violent criminal activity during protests? Peaceful protests are wonderful and have been very effective throughout history. The protests we've seen for the past few days are not helping anything. Yes, people are angry at the criminal behavior of the police officer/murderer, but manifesting that anger by destroying property, looting, injuring, and threatening others, is only going to jus…

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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by jbay808 »

asutekku wrote: post #154
anonymousiam wrote: post #152

Timely article, but what about violent criminal activity during protests? Peaceful protests are wonderful and have been very effective throughout history. The protests we've seen for the past few days are not helping anything. Yes, people are angry at the criminal behavior of the police officer/murderer, but manifesting that anger by destroying property, looting, injuring, and threatening others, is only going to jus…

I’ll just play the devil’s advocate, but when have peaceful protests ever helped the cause? Those are forgotten as soon as they are over.

Indian independence? Martin Luther King?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by jlokier »

verdverm wrote: post #151
jlokier wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could it be that sometimes the police, government, etc. will make your life miserable even if you haven't commit a crime because they don't like something you did? Nah. They would never do anything like that. As everyone knows, all police are paragons of moral excellence in every country in the world at all times. Governments have definitely never, ever gone after innocent protesters.

How much worse are the police from other profession? i.e. how skewed are different professions w.r.t. morals? Do you think lawyers are worse? Politicians? The Media? Where do police fit into this spectrum? Are all police bad? What percentage? (you can close this tag if you wish)

IF they are identical morally there's still a problem, because they are not identical in power.

With power comes a responsibilty to be better than others, and if that's not something you can count on, which it isn't, we need to protect others.

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