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Re: The rise of React

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Props to the people who have been managing the project. I have done a lot of React in the last 6 years and have never been frustrated with their decisions, which is very rare.

I think beyond the technical aspects, the way React evolved over time was really on point. The roadmap has always been very well designed and the literature around new features and deprecated ones top notch.

The way React is used has changed completely, but at no point did I feel upgrading was too costly and ended up stuck with an old version.

Re: The rise of React

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I think React’s biggest win is that it appeals to the programmers, not just the web developers. For the first time everything you need to make a website or webapp — html, css, etc – is just data. You have direct control, direct access, you can do what you want.

There’s a beauty and simplicity in that. React is to web frontend what Lisp is to systems programming.

Re: The rise of React

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I think React’s biggest win is that it appeals to the programmers, not just the web developers. For the first time everything you need to make a website or webapp — html, css, etc – is just data. You have direct control, direct access, you can do what you want. There’s a beauty and simplicity in that. React is to web frontend what Lisp is to systems programming.

The downside to that is that I've seen a lot of old school frontenders who 5-7 years ago were able to just dus html/css and sass haven't been able to keep up, it just got too complex. In that regard the old situation had better seperation of concerns.

Re: The rise of React

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I think React’s biggest win is that it appeals to the programmers, not just the web developers. For the first time everything you need to make a website or webapp — html, css, etc – is just data. You have direct control, direct access, you can do what you want. There’s a beauty and simplicity in that. React is to web frontend what Lisp is to systems programming.

The downside to that is that I've seen a lot of old school frontenders who 5-7 years ago were able to just dus html/css and sass haven't been able to keep up, it just got too complex. In that regard the old situation had better seperation of concerns.

In my experience that separation of concerns was fake. 15+ years of webdev and I ain’t ever seen a redesign that doesn’t fundamentally change the layout and business logic. Never seen a spec update to logic that doesn’t also change how things look.

The coupling is super tight and always has been.

Re: The rise of React

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The downside to that is that I've seen a lot of old school frontenders who 5-7 years ago were able to just dus html/css and sass haven't been able to keep up, it just got too complex. In that regard the old situation had better seperation of concerns.

In my experience that separation of concerns was fake. 15+ years of webdev and I ain’t ever seen a redesign that doesn’t fundamentally change the layout and business logic. Never seen a spec update to logic that doesn’t also change how things look. The coupling is super tight and always has been.

I meant more in the sense that different people could do different jobs.

Non-developers/designers were able to do a lot of the frontend stuff. With the "new" complexity of frontend development that's mostly gone.

I've seen it a few times with my own eyes that in teams the 1-5 frontenders specialised in html/css had a really hard time switching to react, at the same time more seasoned developers felt like fish in the water.

Considering the scarcity of developers that's actual a big deal, more work for developers while at the same time less work for traditional frontenders.

Re: The rise of React

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The only reason I choose React today is the immense ecosystem around it. With every other framework, even though the core framework is capable enough, it feels like I have to reinvent wheels, axles, and more.

Re: The rise of React

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post #2

Props to the people who have been managing the project. I have done a lot of React in the last 6 years and have never been frustrated with their decisions, which is very rare. I think beyond the technical aspects, the way React evolved over time was really on point. The roadmap has always been very well designed and the literature around new features and deprecated ones top notch. The way React is used has changed co…

Is “props” a pun? If it is...I appreciate it * snap

Re: The rise of React

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The downside to that is that I've seen a lot of old school frontenders who 5-7 years ago were able to just dus html/css and sass haven't been able to keep up, it just got too complex. In that regard the old situation had better seperation of concerns.

In my experience that separation of concerns was fake. 15+ years of webdev and I ain’t ever seen a redesign that doesn’t fundamentally change the layout and business logic. Never seen a spec update to logic that doesn’t also change how things look. The coupling is super tight and always has been.

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