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Re: Fuchsia overview

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Post by rstat1 »

Animats wrote: post #6
jpm_sd wrote: post #3

Sounds a bit like a modern, open approach to the problems that were solved by QNX. Excited to see how it evolves!

Not really open. If you submit code, you grant a license to Google to use it in non-proprietary code.[1] So, at some point, once users and developers are locked in, Google can make later versions closed and proprietary enough to stop clones. Like they did to Android with Google Play Services. [1] https://cla.developers.google.com/about/google-individual

Google Play Services was never open. You can however still submit changes to the actual OS though.

People said the same thing about Android in its early days. It was wrong then, still wrong now, and will likely be just as wrong in the future.

Re: Fuchsia overview

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Post by 101404 »

Animats wrote: post #6
jpm_sd wrote: post #3

Sounds a bit like a modern, open approach to the problems that were solved by QNX. Excited to see how it evolves!

Not really open. If you submit code, you grant a license to Google to use it in non-proprietary code.[1] So, at some point, once users and developers are locked in, Google can make later versions closed and proprietary enough to stop clones. Like they did to Android with Google Play Services. [1] https://cla.developers.google.com/about/google-individual

So basically you'd work for free for one of the wealthiest companies.

That's f'ed up.

Re: Fuchsia overview

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Post by diegoperini »

matchbok wrote: post #2

Another Google project that will end up being abandoned. Flutter, Dart, messaging, etc. They need to just fix Android.

Your resentment (if there is any) is understandable but you are using a cross platform application framework to predict what Google will do for an OS. Moreover, I believe Flutter isn't going anywhere anytime soon either.

I write about Flutter in our company blog every now and then. I can confirm, Flutter posts currently receive their all time high impression counts and time retention rates.

Re: Fuchsia overview

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Post by 101404 »

cryptoz wrote: post #5
matchbok wrote: post #2

Another Google project that will end up being abandoned. Flutter, Dart, messaging, etc. They need to just fix Android.

I have a strong feeling that Fuchsia will not be abandoned. I can't put my finger on it, but Google's approach and tone around Fuchsia feels really different from how they talked about / marketed Reader, or even Wave, or other things they shut down. I'm an Android developer learning Flutter and Dart out of both curiosity and an gamble that it will likely be a faster-improving way to make cross-platform apps than othe…

...or Google+

Oh, wait

Re: Fuchsia overview

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Post by cycloptic »

101404 wrote: post #13
Animats wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really open. If you submit code, you grant a license to Google to use it in non-proprietary code.[1] So, at some point, once users and developers are locked in, Google can make later versions closed and proprietary enough to stop clones. Like they did to Android with Google Play Services. [1] https://cla.developers.google.com/about/google-individual

So basically you'd work for free for one of the wealthiest companies. That's f'ed up.

It's not because you're also asking the same of them. If you're submitting code upstream, you're essentially asking the maintainers to perform code review and start maintaining your contributions, for free.
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