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Mosquitoes kill more than 700k people every year (2017)

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One of my classmates came back from Africa to Europe this March without any symptoms. 10 days later she got high fever, dizziness, and unfortunately she could not even recognise her family. Everyone thought its COVID, and doctors recommended her to stay home to not spread the "virus". Unfortunately when she got the the hospital, the diagnostics was too late to and she died in malaria 1,5 days later. Please beware of…

Where in Africa?

And is it okay if I ask how old was she? / are you?

I feel sad to hear

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To put this in a perspective, 1 Mosquito 1,000,000 2 Human 475,000 3 Snake 50,000 4 Dog 25,000 5 Tsetse Fly 10,000 6 Assassin Bug 10,000 7 Freshwater Snail 10,000 8 Ascaris Roundworm 2,500 9 Tapeworm 2,000 10 Crocodile 1,000 11 Hippopotamus 500 12 Elephant 100 13 Lion 100 14 Wolf 10 15 Shark 10 https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-animals-that-kill-mo...

I had never heard of Assassin bug but apparently they are all over North America. https://www.insectidentification.org/insect-description.asp?... Wonder if those Murder Hornets will make next year's list?

I hadn't heard of them either. They don't seem nearly as terrifying to me as murder hornets. They're dangerous due to disease.

Their nests are pretty cool though. Kinda like a flat hex grid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduviidae#/media/File:Assassi...

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One of my classmates came back from Africa to Europe this March without any symptoms. 10 days later she got high fever, dizziness, and unfortunately she could not even recognise her family. Everyone thought its COVID, and doctors recommended her to stay home to not spread the "virus". Unfortunately when she got the the hospital, the diagnostics was too late to and she died in malaria 1,5 days later. Please beware of…

Makes you wonder how many people have actually died so far this way. Being told to stay home and not spread covid, meanwhile something else is actually terribly wrong.

It's terrifying. A friend of a friend of my wife just lost her baby. It was something that would have been easily seen in a routine screening, but because of COVID the OB/GYN wasn't having patients come to the office. It's heart breaking.

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This is why Verily's https://debug.com/ project is so interesting. The idea is to create modified mosquitoes that can't bite or breed and release them to "breed" with the general populous thus neutralizing them.

What's to say something strange doesn't happen with these "modified mosquitoes" and we somehow engineer a super mosquitos or kill off 4 other species accidentally. I really want to believe that doing this would be something that humans should explore, but I think the chance of something going wrong is fairly high. Considering our rather terrible track record with stuff like this (weapons, pesticides, etc). It often t…

The whole superhero mosquito thing is pretty solidly unlikely. For starters these things are tested in closed environments (already has been done many times). The worst you might expect is it not working at all.

Also, the mosquito lifecycle is as little as a week or two from egg to egg. The process would be rather fast.

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Poor sharks, they get one of the worst raps for how little damage they do to humans. I'm surprised to see dogs so high up on that list.

Gruesome wikipedia page with detailed Circumstances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_t... The pattern appears to be, very young child, or older adult, attacked by either a pitbull or pack of dogs.

Someone always pops up to save "pitbulls have a bad rep" but they also account for > 80% of all bites and deaths by dog.

That's not an accident.

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One of my classmates came back from Africa to Europe this March without any symptoms. 10 days later she got high fever, dizziness, and unfortunately she could not even recognise her family. Everyone thought its COVID, and doctors recommended her to stay home to not spread the "virus". Unfortunately when she got the the hospital, the diagnostics was too late to and she died in malaria 1,5 days later. Please beware of…

Makes you wonder how many people have actually died so far this way. Being told to stay home and not spread covid, meanwhile something else is actually terribly wrong.

There was an Oncologist who was talking about how the number of women coming in for regular exams was non-existent for two months. A few months is enough time for breast cancer to go from stage 1 to stage 2, and for 5 year survival rates to drop by a third[0].

There are going to be a ton of secondary effects due to prematurely closing or clearing out hospitals and clinics, and many people have already died from completely preventable illnesses, with some clinics telling people to not come in when they should have.

[0]: https://unherd.com/thepost/professor-karol-sikora-fear-is-mo...

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To put this in a perspective, 1 Mosquito 1,000,000 2 Human 475,000 3 Snake 50,000 4 Dog 25,000 5 Tsetse Fly 10,000 6 Assassin Bug 10,000 7 Freshwater Snail 10,000 8 Ascaris Roundworm 2,500 9 Tapeworm 2,000 10 Crocodile 1,000 11 Hippopotamus 500 12 Elephant 100 13 Lion 100 14 Wolf 10 15 Shark 10 https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-animals-that-kill-mo...

This list isn't really fair. Mosquitoes don't actually kill people, they are just vectors for a disease which does kill people. So then humans should get a point for every death due to flu, AIDS or COVID-19, right? And all the accidental deaths too, because I'm pretty sure the mosquitoes are just living and don't intend to kill anyone. So I think human should be number 1 by a very long way, followed by mosquito.

They might not intend to kill, but they do so during the act of sucking blood without permission. That’s at least manslaughter.

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Your reference conflates hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to try to prove your point. Chloroquiine is a different drug with stronger side effects, which I explicitly mentioned. How about finding information about hydroxychlorquine on its own? This is from the FDA itself: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2007/00... I suggest you actually try to do some deeper research besides just reading politic…

Ah, so the sources that don’t fit your narrative are “politicized”, yet others (from the same entity) are not? What a convenient pattern of thought. I read the document you linked to, and it outlines the potential risks and side effects of the medication and clearly specified that it should be administered with the supervision of a doctor. This adds evidentiary weight against your original claim that it is “safer tha…

You pretty much completely negated whatever point you had, so I'm not sure what your point is now. Every drug has positive and negative side effects. Just because a small percentage of people have adverse side effects doesn't mean that the drug is unsafe, otherwise ALL DRUGS are unsafe by this definition. So if your point is that all drugs, including hydroxychloroquine, are unsafe, then fine, you are correct by this absurd definition.

However, to more reasonable people, hydroxychloroquine is safe because the vast majority of people can take it daily for decades without any adverse effects. People with lupus and rheumatoid arthritis take it daily, with most having no adverse effects. It's provably more safe than a drug like Acetominophen. Are there people who suffer adverse effects by taking it? Yes. But it's a small minority of people. And if the only definition of "safe" is that no one ever gets adverse effects, then there is no such chemical that qualifies to be safe, including water. Water in large enough doses will kill people.

The reason why I'm saying it's politicized is because the very mention of the drug has become politicized. Look at your reaction and other responses. I never mentioned COVID-19, and you were the one to bring it up. The drug has been caught up in the nonsense with COVID-19 and Trump taking it, but that was never the point. I never mentioned that, all I did was talk about whether or not it's safe, which it is. People like you who know nothing about the drug start echoing talking points from the news because you think you're so much smarter than other people, and yet you don't even read basic information about the drug. If you did, you would speak more educatedly about the drug instead of parrot what you heard on Twitter.

If you don't believe what was written by the CDC and the FDA, then that's your right to believe whatever it is that you want. But it's not science, it's religion. You want to believe that hydroxychloroquine is a dangerous drug even against science. Even the research paper that you linked to has been resoundly criticized with science and math. But I guess since you religiously believe what you want to believe, you'll stick with believing that the paper is correct instead of following the science.

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Yes, but mosquitos kill that many every single year. Look at the reaction to COVID-19 compared to the amount of effort going into eliminating mosquito-borne disease. There's certainly some, but it's far from the mobilization we see when a calamity on this scale hits rich countries.

Maybe that's cause-and-effect turned around? We stifled our economy and mobilize a million researchers, because we can afford to and have the will. It'll cost us in the end. What do folks in malaria country do? Scavenge their childrens' mosquito nets to catch fish etc. Reject modern medicine and go to the local quack. Foul their water supplies and poach their endangered species. I know, we can have all the morals we…

It's because SARS-CoV-2 is new, and new things scare us more than things we know. This entire thing has been an exercises in how people fail to properly evaluate risk ... on a global scale .. leading to economic devastation.

Wendover did a great video on risk recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtX-Ibi21tU

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Gruesome wikipedia page with detailed Circumstances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_t... The pattern appears to be, very young child, or older adult, attacked by either a pitbull or pack of dogs.

Someone always pops up to save "pitbulls have a bad rep" but they also account for > 80% of all bites and deaths by dog. That's not an accident.

I used to belive that, but I have since come to believe that the explanatory variable in vicious dog attacks are the type of owners, and the breeders who supply those owners, not dog breed. If you banned pitbulls they would just switch to buying and abusing alsatians.
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