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Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by nsomaru »

dtgay wrote: post #50
Karunamon wrote: post #18

I've been singing the praises of this app every chance I get.. it's really pretty much perfect. * Free (beer/speech) * Self-hostable, including the sync server, which doubles as a web-accessible version of the app (++mobile access!) * Extensible (want UI elements that do things with your notes? Easy. Want to render graphs based on metadata you've entered? No problem. Your own metadata and tagging scheme? All built in…

I’m probably in the minority, but for a notetaking app to be “pretty much perfect” I absolutely need to be able to easily view and edit notes with vim/nvim, or at least have basic Vim emulation.

It’s all or nothing, basic just leads to frustration when it doesn’t work as expected

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by dtgay »

nsomaru wrote: post #61
dtgay wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m probably in the minority, but for a notetaking app to be “pretty much perfect” I absolutely need to be able to easily view and edit notes with vim/nvim, or at least have basic Vim emulation.

It’s all or nothing, basic just leads to frustration when it doesn’t work as expected

I agree, mostly.

An example of "close enough" for me is the IdeaVim plugin[1] for JetBrains IDEs. It supports all the features I need to be quite productive, including registers. The killer feature is that it reads in an `~/.ideavimrc` file, in which I can just `source ~/.vimrc`.

I wish more apps had that level of Vim support. Loading a `vimrc` file like that would be a killer feature for a notetaking app.

[1]: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/164-ideavim

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by fsiefken »

mcint wrote: post #32
fsiefken wrote: post #26

Interesting! Tiddlywiki with all of it's plugins, tags, search amd markdown support is still preferable to me. It is even more crossplatform as it works locally in my Quest as well (termux webdav rb script)

What is your current setup? I quite happily and successfully used MPTW to manage work knowledge, tasks, and context for 2 years. Between leaving the related job and the odious save workarounds for pre-TW5 wikis, I stopped using it. I've made multiple multi-hour attempts to find a workable TW5 configuration, with both the TW5 legacy plugin and searching for replacement plugins.

hi mcint, i use the DIY ruby script for a poor man's webdav server (there is IIS webdav, Apache or Caddy webdav, but they are more involved): https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826...

For sync I use syncthing. Syncthing and ruby work on Android and/or Termux respectively.

So sometimes I like to browse / lookup my TW5 from a multitab VR environment, my android phone or my desktop

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by kurzawa7 »

maxwellwhite wrote: post #6
kurzawa7 wrote: post #4

Will give this a shot. Looks like a modern alternative to CherryTree. I find these hierarchical note taking apps useful for organising complex projects which usually require several levels deep of note organisation. I also use Joplin for general note taking and Google Keep for website resources. I'm set.

Website resources?

What I meant by "Website Resources" is a collection of website links I want to keep note of.

Also, Sorry for not linking apps I mentioned.

CherryTree - A hierarchical note taking application, featuring rich text and syntax highlighting, storing data in a single xml or sqlite file.

https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/

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Joplin - An open source note taking and to-do application with synchronisation capabilities

https://joplinapp.org/

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Google Keep - a web-based note-taking service developed by Google.

https://keep.google.com/

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Extras which may interest you:

Zim - A Desktop Wiki - https://zim-wiki.org/

TreeSheets - Open Source, Free Form Data Organizer (Hierarchical Spreadsheet) - http://strlen.com/treesheets/

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by acemarke »

Been using Boostnote for the last few years. Boostnote's great, but it doesn't have note nesting / trees, so I figured I'd give Trilium a shot.

Downloaded Trilium, tried to type in a standard GFM Markdown fenced code block with a language identifier for syntax highlighting, and it kept converting it to a "Plain Text" block as soon as I typed the third backtick, making it unusable.

That's a hard blocker for me. I write Markdown all the time, and I don't want a pseudo-WYSIWYG editor mangling the Markdown I'm writing as I type it. I also need to be able to add code blocks, with highlighting, at any point in the middle of the notes I'm writing.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by pricci »

noyesno wrote: post #27
pricci wrote: post #25

I would love to explore someone else's library of notes. I really don't know how to take effective notes. When I start reading a new book I try to take notes but always end up just reading. The problem is that months after I can't remember much.

Write your notes on the margins and once you finish the book, transfer the marginalia and relevant quotes to your note taking system of choice.

This is a good idea, the problem is that I use an e-reader. It has a keyboard but taking notes in it isn't really convenient.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by ajford »

dtgay wrote: post #62
nsomaru wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s all or nothing, basic just leads to frustration when it doesn’t work as expected

I agree, mostly. An example of "close enough" for me is the IdeaVim plugin[1] for JetBrains IDEs. It supports all the features I need to be quite productive, including registers. The killer feature is that it reads in an `~/.ideavimrc` file, in which I can just `source ~/.vimrc`. I wish more apps had that level of Vim support. Loading a `vimrc` file like that would be a killer feature for a notetaking app. [1]: https…

I also love JetBrains' vim implementation.

Have you found a way to perform a text reflow (`gq`) in JetBrains? I don't know if I've just overlooked a config somewhere, or if it's just not part of the standard JetBrains support and I need some kind of plugin.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by synista »

formalsystem wrote: post #5

I've tried more than a couple of times to use a personal knowledge base and haven't been succesful in making it stick. My process so far has been I keep a daily journal where I write down the most interesting things I learnt or did everyday. If my daily notes are getting unwieldy then I use a Markdown file which I sync on Github. And when I really want to make sure that I've understood something I'll either write a b…

So I'm going through a bunch of these apps/systems and so far, Zettlr looks like it might be suited to what you're already doing. It's fairly minimalistic out of the box, the markdown files are automatically named by the date you write them (your daily notes), there's autocompletion for your links, there's tags, and that's it. There are maybe a few other things, but that's it.

I'm trying out Trilium right now because I was interested in its visual mapping (I'm more of a visual thinker So I've been using Freeplane, a mindmap software, but it's too restrictive with the hierarchies) and while it has nice features, there seems to be too much going on, which I suspect won't stick with me personally.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by synista »

mbreese wrote: post #12
mkl wrote: post #8

Previous discussion (but worth discussing again): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18840990

I think this is more in reference to yesterday’s discussion about Obsidian... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23324598 There have been a few knowledge base/markdown discussions lately.

I wonder whether it is a result of coronavirus and lockdowns, spring cleaning, or the popularity of roam (or all of the above).

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by synista »

drcongo wrote: post #45
oonis wrote: post #40

Can anyone compare this to Obsidian that was released into beta recently?

I've tried Trilium in the past, and tried Obsidian this week. I fell in love with Obsidian instantly (even though there are a couple of key things missing [1]). This is entirely subjective, but the UI of Trilium actually gives me anxiety - I want my note-taking, knowledgebase to be a zero-friction thing of calm. Obsidian definitely is, I spent two minutes customising keyboard shortcuts to closer match Sublime Text wh…

+1 re: information overload.

I've been testing a bunch of them lately, and Zettlr (FOSS) has a nice and minimalist thing going on too. I liked Obsidian too, especially the network graph, but the licensing discussions in the other thread yesterday are a bit of a concern, but the dev erica seemed fairly open, so I'm keeping an eye out on how that goes.

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