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Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by vbezhenar »

jolux wrote: post #30
stilisstuk wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But e.g. signal don't have the feature where either party of a conversation can delete messages on both phones. This is possible with telegrams secret chat. And its great.

Signal has disappearing messages for this use case. Not the same but the crypto in Signal is so much better (and permanently enabled) it’s hard to argue that Telegram is more secure.

How can crypto be better or worse? It's either works or it does not. I did not hear about anyone breaking Telegram crypto.

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by fsflover »

miki123211 wrote: post #3

Telegram is such an underappreciated platform. It has many features other platforms lack, is reasonably privacy-friendly, more so than fb/whatsapp/etc, but not enough to sacrifice features or UX. The have an API ind both official and unofficial clients for almost all platforms, including command line and native, non-electron Windows (UWP). The client API is not easy to use, as crypto and similar features are involved…

> reasonably privacy-friendly

There is still no e2e encryption on GNU/Linux desktop, even as an option.

Upd: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/871

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by vbezhenar »

garaetjjte wrote: post #4
miki123211 wrote: post #3

Telegram is such an underappreciated platform. It has many features other platforms lack, is reasonably privacy-friendly, more so than fb/whatsapp/etc, but not enough to sacrifice features or UX. The have an API ind both official and unofficial clients for almost all platforms, including command line and native, non-electron Windows (UWP). The client API is not easy to use, as crypto and similar features are involved…

Privacy-wise Whatsapp is probably better due to E2E.

Does it still wants to upload unencrypted backups into Google cloud?

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by ghego1 »

vimslayer wrote: post #40
miki123211 wrote: post #3

Telegram is such an underappreciated platform. It has many features other platforms lack, is reasonably privacy-friendly, more so than fb/whatsapp/etc, but not enough to sacrifice features or UX. The have an API ind both official and unofficial clients for almost all platforms, including command line and native, non-electron Windows (UWP). The client API is not easy to use, as crypto and similar features are involved…

> non-electron Windows (UWP) Oh? I thought it was Qt. I don't want to seem like I'm complaining for nothing as it's definitely much better than, say, Slack client, but I still feel like the Windows client is a bit "out of place". Like the task bar context menu looks different from all the other menus for other apps in there, with rounded corners etc.

I'm not sure that Slack is a proper term of comparison for Telegram. A closer competitor would probably be WhatsApp, and Telegram Desktop easily beats the "desktop" version of WhatsApp on every single aspect. The only reason I'm still using WhatsApp is due to the fact that that's what all the people I know use.

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by mobilio »

stanislavb wrote: post #5

The problem with disposable mail is that it gets blocked quite often. For example, I have a list with more than 3000 domains of disposable mail servers and you can’t register or comment with such a mail on saashub.com or libhunt.com

Is this list public?

I would like to take a look on it.

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by jolux »

vbezhenar wrote: post #41
jolux wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal has disappearing messages for this use case. Not the same but the crypto in Signal is so much better (and permanently enabled) it’s hard to argue that Telegram is more secure.

How can crypto be better or worse? It's either works or it does not. I did not hear about anyone breaking Telegram crypto.

Telegram have said that you can’t trust Signal because the developers live in the US and something something the CIA, which is pretty ridiculous. They rolled their own crypto and they aren’t cryptographers, which should be reason enough not to trust its security: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/49782/is-telegr...

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by [deleted] »

mobilio wrote: post #45
stanislavb wrote: post #5

The problem with disposable mail is that it gets blocked quite often. For example, I have a list with more than 3000 domains of disposable mail servers and you can’t register or comment with such a mail on saashub.com or libhunt.com

Is this list public? I would like to take a look on it.

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Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by nsgf »

mobilio wrote: post #45
stanislavb wrote: post #5

The problem with disposable mail is that it gets blocked quite often. For example, I have a list with more than 3000 domains of disposable mail servers and you can’t register or comment with such a mail on saashub.com or libhunt.com

Is this list public? I would like to take a look on it.

Not op.

You can use something like this. https://github.com/FGRibreau/mailchecker

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by fullstop »

SXX wrote: post #16
miki123211 wrote: post #3

Telegram is such an underappreciated platform. It has many features other platforms lack, is reasonably privacy-friendly, more so than fb/whatsapp/etc, but not enough to sacrifice features or UX. The have an API ind both official and unofficial clients for almost all platforms, including command line and native, non-electron Windows (UWP). The client API is not easy to use, as crypto and similar features are involved…

> It has many features other platforms lack, is reasonably privacy-friendly Telegram still has no E2E encryption by default and their official desktop client dont have it either. So it's worth nothing if no one use it. It's not that I have much trust into proprietary fb code, but there are certainly better apps privacy-wise out there.

You can choose to use E2E if desired. Why is the default so important?

Re: Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service

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Post by fullstop »

jolux wrote: post #14
fr2null wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK, WhatsApp has decent E2EE, but metadata is not encrypted. So even though Facebook can't see what you are saying, it can see to whom you are saying it, how often, at what times etc.

Telegram isn’t encrypted at all by default, and its encryption scheme is sketchy.

Eh? It's encrypted by default. Not E2E, though, although that is an option which you can choose to use.
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