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I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

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Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

#181
To be fair, I would re-phrase the author's thought as

"I wrote an SaaS product because I believed it would get me rich and I went and scoured the internet for a well that echos my thoughts"

The author speaks about exactly one example, that,I guess I can say inspired him to get going with his idea.

No, The internet did not convince him. He convinced himself using the internet to find evidence for a conclusion he already reached.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

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post #39

This is a pretty good atticle, and the product is actually quite solid (maybe a tad overpriced), but this right here is a rookie mistake: > In January, 2019 I launched to HackerNews and some subreddits ... Really? That's a "launch" these days? At least scrounge up a few hundred bucks and throw up some Facebook ads. Reddit and Hacker News have some of the most cynical and thrifty readers out there. Networking and gett…

Are facebook ads really viable forna SaaS product? How should a lone founder organize a better launch than the OP?

The trick with FB ads for non-impulse buys is to write great content that build trust. The FB ads should be a clickbait headline that resonate with your target customers. Try to get them to sign up for a drip email sequence based on their goals (not your tool). Email them and remarket them on FB until they are in the mood to buy.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

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post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This plus the mention of ProductHunt makes me think they fell into the trap of marketing to their fellow creators rather than their audience. That's a common mistake plenty of people make when building anything. Game developers market their games on game development forums, website owners market their sites on web development/webmaster forums, authors market on writing forums, etc. They then forget that the typical p…

I see this advice a lot, but I never really understood what the alternative is. If your product has a specific niche, maybe there are some forums or subreddits dedicated to it, sure. But if it's a game? Some are designed for a niche audience, but most really aren't. Another thing is that most of the forums/subreddits these days have strict rules against self-promotion. And I'm not saying that you're wrong - I'm just…

The main things to keep in mind are that:

There are far less creators than there are people that merely consume/enjoy/use that kind of content/art/product/service

and that

Most people who are creators aren't going to be in your target audience, and hence won't buy/use it.

Hence by marketing to other creators, you end up marketing to a subset of a subset of your product/game's total audience.

As for how you should market?

Well, in a mix of ways. Paid ads, getting journalists/media outlets/influencers to cover your work, posting on social media, doing various attention grabbing marketing campaigns, etc.

Plus using communities that are likely to be interested in the game.

Of course, as you say, the latter have rules against self promotion.

But here's the thing. Those rules are not 100% set in stone absolute.

They're about stopping drive by advertisers, not just anyone with anything to promote at any time in history. That's how the communities I run work for instance, with the assumption being that if someone shows a real interest in the community and subject, we'll allow them to share their work.

So you ideally want to be a longtime contributor on any community you want to market your work on. Have (as they say), less than 10% of your posts as ads for your work.

Hope that helps.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

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> Don't hire people for stupid things. Adobe cloud is 20 bucks a month, read a few books, watch a few videos and make simple designs yourself. If your thing takes off, you can always hire for better later.

This resonates so much. My company hires and outsources for the most stupid things, like, we need to change colors on a design file or move some buttons around? Let's go on Upwork or through our address book, write a RFQ, have a meeting to evaluate the quotes, set up payment and contract, then in two or three weeks the "refresh" is done.

I mean, just open Figma or whatever tool and do it yourself. Or ask a colleague for 20 minutes of help. It doesn't take Van Gogh to pair two colours and fonts.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

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I have not had any success on Upwork. 100% of the “leads” I got there were scams. Not 75%, not even 99%. 100%. Not one single honest job. Some were requests for me to participate in scams, but I don’t roll that way. I’m sure that my experience was unique, and that my profile must have had some “scam flag,” so I won’t write off the platform in its entirety. I heard good things about the site from friends, but every si…

My wife is a very successful marketer on upwork. However, she's been on the platform for maybe even 10 years now, way back when it was odesk and elance. She has flawless work history and over a hundred clients - and she told me that recently the number of job invitations she gets are way down and that the 90%+ of the invitations are very fishy. My guess is that platform is now so popular that the quality of its audie…

What kind of marketing does your wife do and can you send me her Upwork profile? I’m looking for some extra help for my company. Email in profile.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

#187

> Don't hire people for stupid things. Adobe cloud is 20 bucks a month, read a few books, watch a few videos and make simple designs yourself. If your thing takes off, you can always hire for better later. This resonates so much. My company hires and outsources for the most stupid things, like, we need to change colors on a design file or move some buttons around? Let's go on Upwork or through our address book, write…

And even if that doesn't work out, you'll have a lot more domain knowledge than you did before, so if you do hire someone else you'll be able to work with them easier, understand the work they're doing, and have a better chance of noticing if you're being taken for a ride.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

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post #125

I'm struck by two things as I mull over how I'll monetize my own SaaS app that I've started ideating. Firstly, the author says to rather sell to businesses than to individuals. Fine. Secondly, one of his links ( https://makebook.io/ ) says monetize by asking users for money, and makes a point of saying don't use ads anywhere. But if my product is aimed at consumers, why not monetize with ads if it's notoriously diffi…

Advertising doesn't become viable until you're getting 50K+ visitors a month, and in a niche where people will actually click ads. And even then, if it's an unprofitable niche (like say, home cooking), you'd have to multiply that by 10X to reach a good six figure income.

By viable, I mean making more money than you would working as a software engineer in a big city.

Re: I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

#189
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best indie launch I've seen was the initial launch of Balsamiq. It was played off as "meh" by Peldi but it was masterful. I had launched a product 2 years before and until then, I couldn't understand what I did wrong. I obsessed over what he did. Every single thing. Trying to find where he got "lucky". There was no luck.

Peldi is just super friendly and a superhero with customer support. I believe that played a big role in the beginning, and perhaps later. I knew Peldi from the Flash days. Met him once or twice in SFO, and he has an infectious smile and was super friendly. Once, one of our team was showing me Balsamiq and they all liked it. I tried and it was super easy to use. I went to buy the license or I went to ask how to buy it…

That's a nice story! In my opinion, customer service/etc was irrelevant early on.
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